[Cancelled] Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

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Post by TLspotting » 02 Oct 2018, 00:17

Sorry for triple post. But it is really ended.

Flights PF2872 and PF432 both arrived at 21:40Z.

Flight PF596 just arrived at Copenhagen as final flight at 22:13Z. RIP Primera Air, you'll be missed in the skies!
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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by luchtzak » 02 Oct 2018, 00:19

What to Do If You Booked a Primera Air Flight

Unfortunately, if you have a flight booked with Primera Air, you will no longer be able to contact them via e-mail or phone if you wish to follow up with them for more information. For updates, the airline promises to provide customers with more information on its website in the coming days.

You will also need to reschedule your flights with another airline.

It is unknown whether Primera will refund your tickets, so you will need to get in touch with your credit card company or travel insurance provider in order to get your money back.

If you booked your flights through a tour operator or travel agent, contact them for more information.

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by luchtzak » 02 Oct 2018, 00:21

TLspotting wrote:
02 Oct 2018, 00:17
RIP Primera Air, you'll be missed in the skies!
I am not so sure about your last comment TLspotting! In his article, André wrote :
Primera had a bad reputation: it abruptly cancelled all its transatlantic flights from Birmingham earlier this year, and travellers had a lot of difficulties to be reimbursed, let alone get an EU261 compensation. The European flights also suffered many delays and cancellations, and passengers had the same problems.

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Passenger » 02 Oct 2018, 07:46

luchtzak wrote:
02 Oct 2018, 00:19
What to Do If You Booked a Primera Air Flight

Unfortunately, if you have a flight booked with Primera Air, you will no longer be able to contact them via e-mail or phone if you wish to follow up with them for more information. For updates, the airline promises to provide customers with more information on its website in the coming days.

You will also need to reschedule your flights with another airline.

It is unknown whether Primera will refund your tickets, so you will need to get in touch with your credit card company or travel insurance provider in order to get your money back.

If you booked your flights through a tour operator or travel agent, contact them for more information.

https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel ... witter.com
There is no travel insurance, covering this bankruptcy.

European (EU-28) passengers with a Primera flight that is included in a travel package must contact their touroperator or travel agent. Local legislation, based upon a European Travel Directive, states that the touroperator must provide alternative transport (= at the t/o's expenses).

Passengers who had booked a ticket that was paid for by credit card, can apply a Chargeback Request with their credit card issuer (i.e. Visa, Mastercard). If they don't know how to do this, their bank can assist them.

Other passengers can only contact their travel agent or another carrier and ask for assistance and mercy (= to beg for a cheap ticket).

Once again, this bankruptcy proofs the unwillingness of their European Parliament and/or the European Commission to protect all air passengers. Back in 1994, the EC has obliged a guarantuee fund for travel packages. Unfortunately, the EC has refused so far to implement this for sole airtickets too.

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Conti764 » 02 Oct 2018, 11:41

Bad news for Brussels Airport.

Such a shame… But not unexpected…

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Post by luchtzak » 02 Oct 2018, 13:05

Norwegian offering rescue fares for stranded passengers: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/norw ... ankruptcy/

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Post by luchtzak » 02 Oct 2018, 15:48

Europe’s niche airlines have had a grim summer. Primera Air, VLM, Small Planet, Azur and SkyWork Airlines have all ceased operations. Expect more casualties from rising fuel prices and overcapacity unless carriers find shelter through mergers or takeovers. An in-depth analysis by credit rating agency Scope Ratings.

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Post by Stij » 02 Oct 2018, 16:29

On top of that: long haul low cost appears to be much more difficult than short haul low cost.
Maybe this is the reason MOL's Ryanair never started the adventure...

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Post by luchtzak » 02 Oct 2018, 16:33

RYANAIR: Launches rescue fares from Athens Airport as Primera Air cancels Athens – Billund Route

Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 airline, today 2 October, launched €24.99 rescue fares on its Athens – Billund route to accommodate customers affected by Primera Air cancelation of its Billund route from this month.

Ryanair customers can fly to and from Billund on the lowest fares, with the most on-time flights and most reliable service, and can look forward to further improvements, as Ryanair continues its “Always Getting Better” programme, which includes new routes, digital features, connecting flights and even lower fares.

These €24.99 low rescue fares are on sale now on the Ryanair.com website, for travel between now and March 2019, but must be booked by midnight Thursday (4 Oct).

Ryanair’s Nikolas Lardis said:

“Ryanair customers can continue to enjoy the lowest fares and most reliable service to and from Billund and we’ve released rescue fares to assist customers affected by the closure of Primera Air’s Athens – Billund route.

Customers can fly between Athens and Billund at fares starting from just €24.99 between now and March 2019 and these rescue fares are on sale now until midnight Thursday (4 Oct), only on the Ryanair.com website. Customers should book quickly because these fares will be gone very soon – just like Primera Air’s route at Athens.”

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Ansett » 02 Oct 2018, 19:11

I truly feel sorry for Primera Air's crews and pax. It shows you cannot be an amateur or if you have little experience, there is no room for unbridled expansion. I hope Norwegian will keep on flying. Their rescue fares are a lot better than FR's that is just doing another of their free publicity stunts with little substance.
Let's hope AB can get their act together and gets a second successful chance, but it won't be easy, as we can see (although we cannot say AB did unbridled expansion ; what about EW btw ?).
One airline's loss can be another airline's gain. I wonder if AB will consider flying at least to BOS and in the evening to NYC now that the competition is gone for those flights.

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Passenger » 02 Oct 2018, 19:29

Virgin Atlantic also offers "reduced fares":

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by convair » 02 Oct 2018, 19:32

Ansett wrote:
02 Oct 2018, 19:11
I wonder if AB will consider flying at least to BOS and in the evening to NYC now that the competition is gone for those flights.
1. Someone here said they'd have a hard time obtaining rights to fly to the US.
2. If they do obtain the rights, will they dare to fly from/to CRL?

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Post by Desert Rat » 02 Oct 2018, 20:28

It's quite moving to see other operators willing to assist stranded primera pax...


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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 02 Oct 2018, 21:09

convair wrote:
02 Oct 2018, 19:32
Ansett wrote:
02 Oct 2018, 19:11
I wonder if AB will consider flying at least to BOS and in the evening to NYC now that the competition is gone for those flights.
1. Someone here said they'd have a hard time obtaining rights to fly to the US.
2. If they do obtain the rights, will they dare to fly from/to CRL?
They did get the right to fly to the US.
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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Ansett » 02 Oct 2018, 23:24

Indeed (mentioned before in this thread if I'm not mistaken).
I presume we (all ?) agree that if they dare to launch an evening flight to NYC and, let's say, a late afternoon flight to BOS, AB should operate from BRU since these flights should attract a substantial number of high yield pax and not Chinese tourists for whom the 60 km between CRL and BRU would not have made any difference.

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Conti764 » 03 Oct 2018, 09:54

Ansett wrote:
02 Oct 2018, 23:24
Indeed (mentioned before in this thread if I'm not mistaken).
I presume we (all ?) agree that if they dare to launch an evening flight to NYC and, let's say, a late afternoon flight to BOS, AB should operate from BRU since these flights should attract a substantial number of high yield pax and not Chinese tourists for whom the 60 km between CRL and BRU would not have made any difference.
CRL or BRU, AB won't have any feed on any side. So I highly doubt they'd make it. Their US rights are also 'just in case' for if some other airline would like to wetlease or charter an AB plane. Maybe in the long run, it might become feasable, but on a shorter notice I dont expect AB to venture outside China and wet lease...

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