Ryanair cabin crew strike 25 and 26 July 2018 - cockpit strike 10 August

[KriVa]

For EBBR:
25/07/18 - 20 RYR flights loaded in the system, 13 cancelled, cancellation rate of 65%.
26/07/18 - 20 RYR flights loaded in the system, 10 cancelled, cancellation rate of 50%.

[luchtzak]

13:00 FR2915 Palma Mallorca Scheduled 13:00

Cancelled

Indeed: they didn't find a "Belgian" crew to operate the flight. And when I say Belgian, it only means "based in Belgium", because all of the cabin crew at Brussels are now Romanian, Portuguese, Polish, etc. No Belgian person would accept to work with a salary of €1000 nett with the high costs of living in Brussels.

This is Sarkis, the only Belgian flight attendant working at Brussels Airport for 4 months. He says that he earns 1140 euros per month, and a minimum of 400 euros.

Sarkis, le seul stewards belge (il y a aussi une hôtesse) de #Ryanair qui travaille @BrusselsAirport depuis 4 mois. “Mon salaire maximum ? 1140 euros par mois, minimum 400 euros. Ryanair c'est de l'esclavage" #ryanairstrike

[Passenger]

Further more, the high succes rate of the strike proves my point that Luk De Wilde's article was pure and utter crap based on hearsay.

Luk De Wilde was damned right and spot on: "...Na de twee nutteloze stakingsdagen bij Brussels Airlines (waarbij de maatschappij twee dagen volledig plat ging) gaan we nu naar de twee volgende – al even nutteloze – stakingsdagen bij Ryanair. Stop aub met de reiziger, de passagier te pesten!..." Translated via Google: "...After the two useless strike days at Brussels Airlines (where the airline went completely down for two days) we now go to the next two - equally useless - strike days at Ryanair. Please stop with bully the traveler, the passenger!..."

it's almost end of strike day one now. And what's the result? Has Ryanair promised a salary increases? No. Will they do so tomorrow at the end of strike-day-two? Most probably not. Will they change all Irish labour contracts into local labour contracts? Twice no. So Luk De Wilde is right: the only result is: Thousands of passengers stranded. Thousands of passengers who have to buy a return ticket on another airline. Not refundable by Ryanair. Cancelled on Wednesday and rebooked onto a flight on Saturday? Bad luck: Ryanair pays only one hotel night.

(BTW: your "high success rate" is maybe explained because the unions offer 30 Euro nett for a strike day.)

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"Luk De Wilde" = this article/opinion article:
https://travel-magazine.be/opiniestuk-s ... te-pesten/

[jan_olieslagers]

Regarding the "import" of "alternate" cabin crew, from Poland and perhaps from elsewhere: how many of those would speak the local languages? Don't local passengers have a right to be spoken to in local language?

[convair]

(BTW: your "high success rate" is maybe explained because the unions offer 30 Euro nett for a strike day.)

Hopefully, they earn a little more than that when they work!

[sean1982]

Its not because its in the newspaper Andre that it is true, he is for sure not the only Belgian cabin crew member in BRU and there’s lots more in CRL.


Seems to be hard for you to understand what the legal rights of strikers are passenger. Like I said before, strikes should be the very last resort. Of ALL the strikes i’ve seen in the last 15 years, this one was the longest and most hard fought for one. No Ryanair hasn’t changed anything yet, but the battle isn’t over

Post edited by moderator. Reason: personal attack.

[sn26567]

Whatever happens with that strike, the reputation of Ryanair will fade in the public opinion. People unaffected by the strike will condemn Ryanair for their work practices which are now publicly revealed, and travellers whose flights are cancelled will be furious at the way Ryanair is handling cancellations: no compensation, no hotline, rebooking on flights that are days away, etc.

The danger for the strikers is that Ryanair will retaliate like they have just done in Dublin after three days of pilot strikes: 6 aircraft moved elsewhere, 100 pilots and 200 cabin crew made redundant (guess which ones!). Despite the claim that Ryanair will not sanction the strikers...

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryana ... redundant/

[sn26567]

Another lie?

[Passenger]

(your "high success rate" is maybe explained because the unions offer 30 Euro nett for a strike day.)

Hopefully, they earn a little more than that when they work!

Confirmed: quote from a trade union's website: "...CNE/LBC has a assistance fund that helps members financially, either by paying a daily strike fee or in case of reprisals or dismissal for going on strike by paying a daily financial compensation until the day of the trial. You need to know that in Portugal, no a single worker has been sanctioned for going on strike. The compensation amount in case of a 2 day strike is as follow: a fee of 30€ for every strike day for every union member. It is 60€ for 2 days..."

[convair]

(your "high success rate" is maybe explained because the unions offer 30 Euro nett for a strike day.)

Hopefully, they earn a little more than that when they work!

Confirmed: quote from a trade union's website: "...CNE/LBC has a assistance fund that helps members financially, either by paying a daily strike fee or in case of reprisals or dismissal for going on strike by paying a daily financial compensation until the day of the trial. You need to know that in Portugal, no a single worker has been sanctioned for going on strike. The compensation amount in case of a 2 day strike is as follow: a fee of 30€ for every strike day for every union member. It is 60€ for 2 days..."

This "compensation" is only partial: they earn more, hopefully, when they work than when they are on strike! So the incentive for the strike is not that "compensation", but the way they are being treated and the lack of response from the management.

Anyway, Ryanair greatly deserves these strikes in view of the way they treat their people, of the abuse of their pax whenever they are at fault , and their unwillingness to abide by the employment laws and regulations of the countries in which they operate.

I also regret the timing of the strike and the inconvience to the pax, but Ryanair got plenty of opportunities to straighten things up; the current problem and timing is of their own choosing.

[Passenger]

Belgian consumer organization Test-Aankoop/Test-Achats confirms they will sue Ryanair, when the airline will not voluntary pay the indemnity upon demand by the passengers:

NL:
https://www.test-aankoop.be/action/pers ... sche-actie
FR:
https://www.test-achats.be/action/espac ... sche-actie

[sn26567]

Ryanair Portuguese cabin crew are not yet satisfied with today's strike: they say new strikes are planned for summer 2018 but those dates will not be released yet.

[DIBO]

Anyway, Ryanair greatly deserves these strikes in view of the way they treat their people, of the abuse of their pax whenever they are at fault , and their unwillingness to abide by the employment laws and regulations of the countries in which they operate.

Couldn't agree more!!

[Passenger]

Free rerouting? Forget it. Ryanair tells you what they offer as possibilities, and if you want a convenient rerouting, you will have to pay for it. For Ryanair, yield and revenu prevails to passengers rights, as this Flemish scouts group experienced:
https://www.hln.be/regio/sint-niklaas/s ... ~a86400d3/

[Passenger]

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To go on strike is a legal right, no problem with that. But isn't one legally obliged to advise his/her participation to a strike previously to the employer?

[Boeing767copilot]

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To go on strike is a legal right, no problem with that. But isn't one legally obliged to advise his/her participation to a strike previously to the employer?

And more important, another lie of the unions to 'the media in holiday modus':

Contrary to what the trade unions say, not all strikers have received this letter. Only those who have not reported in advance that they would go on strike.

[luchtzak]

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To go on strike is a legal right, no problem with that. But isn't one legally obliged to advise his/her participation to a strike previously to the employer?

You are NOT obliged to warn your employer up front, one thing I am very sure of! Not accepting unions but demanding to be warned up front is contradictionary

[Passenger]

To go on strike is a legal right, no problem with that. But isn't one legally obliged to advise his/her participation to a strike previously to the employer?

You are NOT obliged to warn your employer up front, one thing I am very sure of! Not accepting unions but demanding to be warned up front is contradictionary

From Securex (a Belgian private Social Security Office) - thus referring to Belgian legislation:

"...In ondernemingen zonder vakbondsafvaardiging moet de werknemer die afwezig wil blijven om aan een collectieve actie deel te nemen, zelf het initiatief nemen en zijn werkgever verwittigen..." Translated via Google: "... In companies without a trade union delegation, the employee who wants to remain absent to take part in a collective action must take the initiative and inform his employer..."

[sean1982]

To go on strike is a legal right, no problem with that. But isn't one legally obliged to advise his/her participation to a strike previously to the employer?

You are NOT obliged to warn your employer up front, one thing I am very sure of! Not accepting unions but demanding to be warned up front is contradictionary

From Securex (a Belgian private Social Security Office) - thus referring to Belgian legislation:

"...In ondernemingen zonder vakbondsafvaardiging moet de werknemer die afwezig wil blijven om aan een collectieve actie deel te nemen, zelf het initiatief nemen en zijn werkgever verwittigen..." Translated via Google: "... In companies without a trade union delegation, the employee who wants to remain absent to take part in a collective action must take the initiative and inform his employer..."

Which is totally next to the point as to be employed under Belgian legislation is what they are fighting for

[Passenger]

From Securex (a Belgian private Social Security Office) - thus referring to Belgian legislation:

"...In ondernemingen zonder vakbondsafvaardiging moet de werknemer die afwezig wil blijven om aan een collectieve actie deel te nemen, zelf het initiatief nemen en zijn werkgever verwittigen..." Translated via Google: "... In companies without a trade union delegation, the employee who wants to remain absent to take part in a collective action must take the initiative and inform his employer..."

Which is totally next to the point as to be employed under Belgian legislation is what they are fighting for

And therefore I added: "...thus referring to Belgian legislation:..."