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Re: 2019 Antwerp Airport (ANR/EBAW) latest news

Post by luchtzak » 09 Nov 2018, 13:38

Curious to find out which airline will start flying between Antwerp and London City.

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/antw ... ndon-city/

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Post by sn26567 » 09 Nov 2018, 14:18

Sai wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:09
Furthermore the rise in passenger numbers are discussed.
It's a decline rather than a rise in passenger numbers.

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/antw ... ndon-city/
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Post by Sai » 09 Nov 2018, 15:28

sn26567 wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 14:18
Sai wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:09
Furthermore the rise in passenger numbers are discussed.
It's a decline rather than a rise in passenger numbers.

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/antw ... ndon-city/
Don't know, just citing the article from hln.be where according to the CEO they expect to end this year with more pax than in 2016, which was their best year so far. (sic)?

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Post by ostair » 09 Nov 2018, 20:49

luchtzak wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 13:38
Curious to find out which airline will start flying between Antwerp and London City.

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/antw ... ndon-city/
If we can believe their website it will be La Nova.
Three daily flights to LCY from ANR, from +/- 430 Euro return :o

Business destination:
Four times a week to Hamburg from +/- 530 Euro return
Nice and Sion are the other destinations.

Powdair and Chalair comes in my mind... :idea:

Source;
http://www.flylanova.com/

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Post by pitrixplanespotting » 09 Nov 2018, 21:03

Starting 1 Februari 2019
- Hamburg 4x weekly
- London 3x daily on Mo,Tu,WE,TH, 2x daily on Fr, 1 evening on Su
- Nice 3x weekly
- Sion 1x weekly (until 31 March)

Probably 1 based ATR72 @ANR

Well... that's the theory i guess :P

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Post by koninckske » 09 Nov 2018, 21:48

ANR to HAM in 1h20, to NCE in 1h50... simply not possible with an ATR72. Saab 2000 maybe?

I hope it will be a real airline and not a new startup virtual carrier to operate the LCY.

(daydream mode ON) My wishlist:
BA Cityflyer to LCY with many possible onward connections.
Adria with their 'new' Saab 2000 to ZRH (on social media many people keep asking to restart ZRH)

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Post by sn26567 » 09 Nov 2018, 21:48

pitrixplanespotting wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 21:03
Probably 1 based ATR72 @ANR
An ATR72 with only 36 or 56 seats explains the high fares. Are there enough passengers willing to pay such prices?
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Post by sn26567 » 09 Nov 2018, 21:53

koninckske wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 21:48
ANR to HAM in 1h20, to NCE in 1h50... simply not possible with an ATR72. Saab 2000 maybe?
Thy only have ATR72 (36-56 seats) and PC12 (6-9 seats) aircraft. But indeed they might acquire other ones...
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Post by koninckske » 09 Nov 2018, 22:03

sn26567 wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 21:53
koninckske wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 21:48
ANR to HAM in 1h20, to NCE in 1h50... simply not possible with an ATR72. Saab 2000 maybe?
Thy only have ATR72 (36-56 seats) and PC12 (6-9 seats) aircraft. But indeed they might acquire other ones...
They have no planes at all. They will wetlease capacity since they are a virtual airline.

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Post by FLYAIR10 » 09 Nov 2018, 22:16

ANR to HAM in 1h20, to NCE in 1h50... simply not possible with an ATR72. Saab 2000 maybe?
By coincidence I received this week a promotional email of 'valaisprive' which is about to set up daily links between LCY and Sion with DO328Jet equipment. The flights between UK and CH are offered 'for members only' though...
See link.

https://www.valaisprive.co.uk/?utm_camp ... _source=so

Is there a business-relationship with La Nova maybe? Would they share each others equipment? Could the DO328J be seen in ANR soon? I guess the DO328Jet is faster that the ATR72 and that could explain the flight time...

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Post by DIBO » 09 Nov 2018, 22:26

Valaisprive wrote:A professional aviation team led by the ex-accountable manager of Privat Air of Geneva, along with the founders of powdair blended with the legal expertise of Swiss aviation lawyers
:roll:

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Post by MHG » 10 Nov 2018, 08:52

FLYAIR10 wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 22:16
Could the DO328J be seen in ANR soon? I guess the DO328Jet is faster that the ATR72 and that could explain the flight time...
Only in case Sun Air decides to tap into ANR market ...
At least their recently started domestic flights from FDH (Friedrichshafen/Germany) are operated by their Do328-300 (Jet) - and apparently are doing well ...

At the moment I can only think of 3 possible operators:
1) Adria Airways (SAAB2000)
2) BMI (EMB-135/145)
3) SunAir of Scandinavia (BA Franchise) Do328-300 - not sure if they still do operate Do328-200, though. ANR-LCY would be quite short for a Do328-300 (so, rather unlikely)

For clarification:
Do328-200 = Prop
Do328-300 = Jet

flyBE seems to be rather unlikely at the moment considering their serious financial troubles and the generally unclear perspective for UK airlines´s possible operations after Brexit.
BMI is likely to set up some sort of EU-based subsidiary anyway given their collaboration with LH-Group - so unlikely to be too much affected by Brexit.


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Post by b720 » 10 Nov 2018, 09:33

Maybe Chalair? I flew them numerous times to GVA
From ANR .. excellent flights But were almost always empty. I guess that they lost a lot of money operating out of ANR. Maybe LCY Will bring them back?

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Post by MHG » 10 Nov 2018, 10:20

b720 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 09:33
Maybe Chalair? I flew them numerous times to GVA
From ANR .. excellent flights But were almost always empty. I guess that they lost a lot of money operating out of ANR. Maybe LCY Will bring them back?
Unlikely because their aircraft are too small (Beech1900D / max. 19 seats) for the ANR-LCY market.
Fees at LCY are to expensive for such small aircraft.

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Post by b720 » 10 Nov 2018, 10:46

They Also operoperate an ATR42
Maybe they lease another for the LCY flight?

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Post by b720 » 10 Nov 2018, 10:49

Or if economically feasible more runs on the route per day utilising their Beech1900D? More flexibility as more flights per day.. if landing fees and other costs permit..

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Post by b720 » 10 Nov 2018, 10:53

On the other hand better be a UK or Belgian registered airline in case the Brexit mess is not sorted out by March next year.

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Post by DIBO » 10 Nov 2018, 13:02

b720 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 10:49
if landing fees and other costs permit..
For LCY landing fees are per aircraft, not per tonne, so it gets expensive with only 19 seats. Comparison for ANR->LCY return flight:
B1900:
- ANR: 70€ (8 tonnes) T/O+landing fee
- LCY: 1240£ (premium hours) / 1191£ (peak hours)

ATR72-500
- ANR: 170€ (23 tonnes) T/O+landing fee
- LCY: 1240£ (premium hours) / 1191£ (peak hours)

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Post by b720 » 11 Nov 2018, 09:11

DIBO wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 13:02
b720 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 10:49
if landing fees and other costs permit..
For LCY landing fees are per aircraft, not per tonne, so it gets expensive with only 19 seats. Comparison for ANR->LCY return flight:
B1900:
- ANR: 70€ (8 tonnes) T/O+landing fee
- LCY: 1240£ (premium hours) / 1191£ (peak hours)

ATR72-500
- ANR: 170€ (23 tonnes) T/O+landing fee
- LCY: 1240£ (premium hours) / 1191£ (peak hours)
Thanks for the info
Well it s clear..

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