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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Established02 » 23 Aug 2018, 17:19

luchtzak wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 10:49
Finnair ... wide-body aircraft between Belgium and Finland for Winter 2018 and Summer 2019.
The article does not mention the word cargo. However it was cargo that motivated Finnair to operate widebodies to BRU just a few years ago, until their cargo operations were subcontracted to DHL. Does this mean that the deal with DHL is over?

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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis » 23 Aug 2018, 17:30

Established02 wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 17:19
luchtzak wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 10:49
Finnair ... wide-body aircraft between Belgium and Finland for Winter 2018 and Summer 2019.
The article does not mention the word cargo. However it was cargo that motivated Finnair to operate widebodies to BRU just a few years ago, until their cargo operations were subcontracted to DHL. Does this mean that the deal with DHL is over?
The deal is not over bcs it is very good business for both parties. It is extra cargo capacity which they add. DHL is in lack of capacity as the extra cargo airplanes they receive are going directly to Leipzig. You see, everything directly to Germany ;)
That's why Finnair is adding long haul planes during Winter and Summer to BRU.

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Post by TLspotting » 23 Aug 2018, 18:40

Finnair : "AY1541/2 will be operated on Wed and Sat starting from W18 -season onwards with A330. In Spring'19 onwards Wed will be operated on A330 and Sat on A350."
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Post by KriVa » 23 Aug 2018, 21:40

DHL will put some larger/more capacity in BRU, but it won’t be soon, rather soon-ish.
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Post by TLspotting » 25 Aug 2018, 21:19

luchtzak wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 14:17
TLspotting wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 13:40
No A359 for me neither and A333 not at every Wednesday flight
Then ... the information needs to be loaded in GDS. We have the information first-hand.
In Finnair booking system.
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Post by Mavke » 25 Aug 2018, 21:48

by end october 3 flights now operated by A306's wil be operated by 2-3 A332F's at Brussels ... later on could be 5 ....

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Post by TLspotting » 26 Aug 2018, 08:51

Mavke wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 21:48
by end october 3 flights now operated by A306's wil be operated by 2-3 A332F's at Brussels ... later on could be 5 ....
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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by convair » 26 Aug 2018, 12:06

TLspotting wrote:
26 Aug 2018, 08:51
Mavke wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 21:48
by end october 3 flights now operated by A306's wil be operated by 2-3 A332F's at Brussels ... later on could be 5 ....
Source?
Which flights? Which airline?

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Post by Mavke » 26 Aug 2018, 14:11

check the news on cargofact site ... EAT Leipzig just took over the former etihad A332F freighters .
they wil be used from Brussels to Lagos , to Bahrein , and likely to Copenhagen aswel . and its possible that 2 more wil be used to the USA . but thats for further away in the future . source ?? its the work of me and my team to load and unload these on time ...
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Post by Traveler » 07 Sep 2018, 11:08

Icelandair will increase the amount of flights to Brussels and will start flying with 737 Max 8

Reykjavik Keflavik – Brussels eff 15MAY19 Increase from 5 to 10 weekly, 737 MAX 8 replaces 757-200
FI554 KEF0740 – 1245BRU 7M8 D
FI556 KEF1110 – 1615BRU 7M8 256

FI555 BRU1400 – 1515KEF 7M8 D
FI557 BRU1715 – 1830KEF 7M8 256

Source: Routesonline

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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by lumumba » 07 Sep 2018, 11:47

Competition is increasing on the North American market!
So there was space for a second flight to Newark but I think it's to late now.
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Post by b720 » 07 Sep 2018, 12:03

I am sure that there is a market for early evening NYC
Flight out of BRU. We work s lot with NYC and most of our clients visiting take the evening to EWR via ZRH they would be delighted to fly out direct at around 18:00 a 19:00 from BRU. And that flight is excellent for those suffering from jetlag. Many people prefer to arrive Evening in the states..those on business can have agood night sleep before they start the following day.. and a late return out of NYC is excellent as well.. as one can sleep immediately rather than board a 19:00 flight and by the time one snoozes one is about to land in BRU, arriving dishelved and not fresh for work.. I think that SN could have filled that flight with connecting pax out of Europe.

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Post by Stij » 07 Sep 2018, 13:26

b720 wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 12:03
I am sure that there is a market for early evening NYC
Flight out of BRU. We work s lot with NYC and most of our clients visiting take the evening to EWR via ZRH they would be delighted to fly out direct at around 18:00 a 19:00 from BRU. And that flight is excellent for those suffering from jetlag. Many people prefer to arrive Evening in the states..those on business can have agood night sleep before they start the following day.. and a late return out of NYC is excellent as well.. as one can sleep immediately rather than board a 19:00 flight and by the time one snoozes one is about to land in BRU, arriving dishelved and not fresh for work.. I think that SN could have filled that flight with connecting pax out of Europe.
I can only agree!!!

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Post by MD-11forever » 07 Sep 2018, 15:43

Traveler wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 11:08
Icelandair will increase the amount of flights to Brussels and will start flying with 737 Max 8

Reykjavik Keflavik – Brussels eff 15MAY19 Increase from 5 to 10 weekly, 737 MAX 8 replaces 757-200
A pity from a spotters perspective: So no opportunity anymore to see the beautiful Hekla Aurora or Vatnajökull colour schemes.

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Post by skumfiduse » 07 Sep 2018, 17:52

MD-11forever wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 15:43
Traveler wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 11:08
Icelandair will increase the amount of flights to Brussels and will start flying with 737 Max 8

Reykjavik Keflavik – Brussels eff 15MAY19 Increase from 5 to 10 weekly, 737 MAX 8 replaces 757-200
A pity from a spotters perspective: So no opportunity anymore to see the beautiful Hekla Aurora or Vatnajökull colour schemes.
Who knows... Icelandair might once in a while upgrade the 737 Max to a 757-200 as they do now with the 757-300. Also, the special livery planes are beautiful but they can't beat the real thing ;)

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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by convair » 07 Sep 2018, 23:36

Stij wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 13:26
b720 wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 12:03
I am sure that there is a market for early evening NYC
Flight out of BRU. We work s lot with NYC and most of our clients visiting take the evening to EWR via ZRH they would be delighted to fly out direct at around 18:00 a 19:00 from BRU. And that flight is excellent for those suffering from jetlag. Many people prefer to arrive Evening in the states..those on business can have agood night sleep before they start the following day.. and a late return out of NYC is excellent as well.. as one can sleep immediately rather than board a 19:00 flight and by the time one snoozes one is about to land in BRU, arriving dishelved and not fresh for work.. I think that SN could have filled that flight with connecting pax out of Europe.
I can only agree!!!

Stij
So do I. Unfortunately, SN needs the agreement of LH and both of them need that of the NA code-share JV I guess.

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Post by travellover » 08 Sep 2018, 09:22

convair wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 23:36
Stij wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 13:26
b720 wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 12:03
I am sure that there is a market for early evening NYC
Flight out of BRU. We work s lot with NYC and most of our clients visiting take the evening to EWR via ZRH they would be delighted to fly out direct at around 18:00 a 19:00 from BRU. And that flight is excellent for those suffering from jetlag. Many people prefer to arrive Evening in the states..those on business can have agood night sleep before they start the following day.. and a late return out of NYC is excellent as well.. as one can sleep immediately rather than board a 19:00 flight and by the time one snoozes one is about to land in BRU, arriving dishelved and not fresh for work.. I think that SN could have filled that flight with connecting pax out of Europe.
I can only agree!!!

Stij
So do I. Unfortunately, SN needs the agreement of LH and both of them need that of the NA code-share JV I guess.
Even if it's never too late in the aviation market, the arrival of PF at BRU indicates that it's a missed opportunity for the LH management, UA and SN. As for EWR early evening flight than for BOS.
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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Darjeeling » 09 Sep 2018, 12:19

About Icelandair:

This clearly shows that flying a single aisle (twice or once) on a TATL journey is no longer a hurdle for the consumers.
Moreover WOW is doing great from BRU too... Often more than half of the flights are filled with pax transferring to Boston.

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Post by nordikcam » 09 Sep 2018, 13:10

Darjeeling wrote:
09 Sep 2018, 12:19
About Icelandair:

This clearly shows that flying a single aisle (twice or once) on a TATL journey is no longer a hurdle for the consumers.
Moreover WOW is doing great from BRU too... Often more than half of the flights are filled with pax transferring to Boston.
Would anyone have the figures of the number of annual travelers departing from BRU with BOS final destination? To add to the list of shortcomings of SN or rather of LH!

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Post by JustPlanes » 09 Sep 2018, 14:35

Not sure why but Boston is booming... back in the days of Sabena here we had a dozen International airlines and I just counted and its 35 right now and many of those operate more than 1 flight a day... KLM, Korean Air and Sichuan Airlines are the next 3 to inaugurate service here while Primera is adding 3 destinations to the 2 it currently serves...
In my mind SN would have been better off with BRU-BOS rather than IAD which is already served by UA... then again for connections with Star Alliance IAD is better than BOS...

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