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Post by saratoga » 09 Jul 2019, 19:59

I am not an expert but it seems in sept SN will also fly back to Bristol, also operated Cityjet.

Correct if i am wrong.

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Post by TLspotting » 10 Jul 2019, 08:24

saratoga wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 19:59
I am not an expert but it seems in sept SN will also fly back to Bristol, also operated Cityjet.

Correct if i am wrong.
Yes, as from 1st September 2019, SN is going to fly to Bristol, with 6 weekly flights, using CR9 of CityJet.

SN2057 BRU - BRS 15:05 - 15:15 12345-7 CR9
SN2058 BRS - BRU 15:50 - 18:05 12345-7 CR9
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Post by lumumba » 10 Jul 2019, 08:49

TLspotting wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 08:24
saratoga wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 19:59
I am not an expert but it seems in sept SN will also fly back to Bristol, also operated Cityjet.

Correct if i am wrong.
Yes, as from 1st September 2019, SN is going to fly to Bristol, with 6 weekly flights, using CR9 of CityJet.

SN2057 BRU - BRS 15:05 - 15:15 12345-7 CR9
SN2058 BRS - BRU 15:50 - 18:05 12345-7 CR9
That's not enough to use the hub there is no possibility to hub on the African flights!
Was there not 3 flights a day in the past?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Post by JOVAN » 10 Jul 2019, 22:45

lumumba wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 08:49
TLspotting wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 08:24
saratoga wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 19:59
I am not an expert but it seems in sept SN will also fly back to Bristol, also operated Cityjet.

Correct if i am wrong.
Yes, as from 1st September 2019, SN is going to fly to Bristol, with 6 weekly flights, using CR9 of CityJet.

SN2057 BRU - BRS 15:05 - 15:15 12345-7 CR9
SN2058 BRS - BRU 15:50 - 18:05 12345-7 CR9
That's not enough to use the hub there is no possibility to hub on the African flights!
Was there not 3 flights a day in the past?
Yes please, SN.
Drop your holiday destinations and quickly become a HUB airline.
3 or more flights a day.
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Post by PttU » 11 Jul 2019, 12:40

JOVAN wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 22:45
lumumba wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 08:49
TLspotting wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 08:24


Yes, as from 1st September 2019, SN is going to fly to Bristol, with 6 weekly flights, using CR9 of CityJet.

SN2057 BRU - BRS 15:05 - 15:15 12345-7 CR9
SN2058 BRS - BRU 15:50 - 18:05 12345-7 CR9
That's not enough to use the hub there is no possibility to hub on the African flights!
Was there not 3 flights a day in the past?
Yes please, SN.
Drop your holiday destinations and quickly become a HUB airline.
3 or more flights a day.
Yeah, drop something that's profitable :roll:

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Post by JOVAN » 11 Jul 2019, 12:49

PttU wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 12:40
JOVAN wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 22:45
lumumba wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 08:49


That's not enough to use the hub there is no possibility to hub on the African flights!
Was there not 3 flights a day in the past?
Yes please, SN.
Drop your holiday destinations and quickly become a HUB airline.
3 or more flights a day.
Yeah, drop something that's profitable :roll:
Yeah, follow the good example of LX, OS, KL : make a HUB and make money.

Do not follow EW example. their system = waste money.

Leave holiday destinations to TUI, FR.
SN can only make some profit (?) in Summer on Holiday destinations.

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Post by TLspotting » 11 Jul 2019, 13:04

SN expects 11 weekly flights as from Winter 19 to BRS.
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Post by flightlover » 11 Jul 2019, 13:18

TLspotting wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 13:04
SN expects 11 weekly flights as from Winter 19.
I do hope they will not fly just 11 flights per week. Or is this a new route?

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Post by lucas » 11 Jul 2019, 13:20

flightlover wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 13:18
TLspotting wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 13:04
SN expects 11 weekly flights as from Winter 19.
I do hope they will not fly just 11 flights per week. Or is this a new route?
TL is talking about the route to Bristol.

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Post by lumumba » 11 Jul 2019, 13:33

TLspotting wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 13:04
SN expects 11 weekly flights as from Winter 19.
That's already better.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Post by TLspotting » 11 Jul 2019, 13:42

flightlover wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 13:18
TLspotting wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 13:04
SN expects 11 weekly flights as from Winter 19.
I do hope they will not fly just 11 flights per week. Or is this a new route?
Bristol but forgot to mention it, it is corrected.
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Post by TLspotting » 11 Jul 2019, 14:34

Via @ezis_bis, Nordica topic : LOT changes their flight numbers for TLL ops, as LO2975/6/7/8 to and from Brussels, and no more LO81xx ones.

Nordica passenger info :
Changes to flight schedule from 1 August 2019 on Brussels and Stockholm routes
Starting from 1 August 2019, ticket sales and customer service for Nordica flights to and from Brussels and Stockholm will transfer to LOT Polish Airlines, who will continue to serve these routes. This means that from that date LOT will attend to and be responsible for passengers. This includes changing tickets, rebookings and/or reimbursement in the event of cancelled flights.

Tickets already purchased for flights between Tallinn and Brussels or Stockholm will be subject to a change of flight number (from LO8xxx to LO2xxx) starting from the same date. LOT will issue passengers with new tickets bearing the correct flight numbers. The booking code will remain the same.

If you have any questions, call LOT on +372 884 0899.
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Post by SabenaForever » 22 Jul 2019, 18:01

Does Air Moldova still fly to BRU? I could not find any flights anymore...

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Post by ZavCity » 22 Jul 2019, 18:17

No, allready gone since a couple of months!
gtz
paul

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Post by SabenaForever » 22 Jul 2019, 18:22

ZavCity wrote:
22 Jul 2019, 18:17
No, allready gone since a couple of months!
gtz
paul
Ok, Thanks.

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Post by sn26567 » 02 Sep 2019, 19:05

Today first Loganair flight to East Midlands, celebrated with a water salute:

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Picture Brussels Airport

The flight will be operated 10 times weekly.
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Post by sn26567 » 20 Sep 2019, 22:49

Brussels Airlines made the last flight on the route Kyiv – Brussels and will stop flying to Ukraine due to optimisation of its network.
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Post by Atlantis » 20 Sep 2019, 23:51

Hopefully they will not add more holiday flights. But add enough frequencies to real business destinations which can feed their long haul flights. Flights to Africa seeing positive growth but are still not full enough. When you have 60 seats empty or even more on certain Africa flights, you can question yourself if something is wrong with your feeder flights. A smaller type will not be the solution as they take a lot of cargo with them which makes it profitable.

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Post by rwandan-flyer » 21 Sep 2019, 21:56

Africa is not an easy market.

Not a very big trafic

Leisure markets limited to some destinations. From Italy and East Europe, there are plenty seasonnal flights to Africa, only for leisure markets, so no need to fly thru BRU, CDG or AMS.

"High'' VFR market mainly in the summmer and probably during the Christmas

Stiff competition on premium market.

During many years US or UE airlines have been sent some aircraft with the oldest configuration, but with the arrival of ME3 and Turkish Airlines in Africa, they have changed their mind. All last brand new aircraft (A350, B787) from British Airways, Lufthansa, Air France or KLM are now or will be used to Africa. Also their last retrofited aircraft.


Competition is very stiff, from Royal Air Maroc and Ethiopian Airlines & Kenya Airways (even if they are in SkyTeam and they have a JV with AF KLM) has added routes to Geneva, Rome and New York.

If Qatar Airways or Turkish Airlines provide better fares, to Africa, people will fly with QR or TK, even if Brussels Airlines or Air France brands are strong, it's not like in 1990s.

As of July 2019, Africa is the only market, where Air France KLM is losing passengers

July 2018: 513 000 pax
July 2019 : 494 000 pax

Jan-Jul 2018: 3 193 000 pax
Jan-Jul 2019: 3 134 000 pax

https://www.airfranceklm.com/fr/system/ ... f_vdef.pdf

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Post by SabenaForever » 30 Sep 2019, 13:40

Air Astana in the first-half of October 2019 plans to operate Nur-Sultan – Brussels service, on board Boeing 767 aircraft. Based on schedule listing, the airline plans to operate service on 11OCT19 and 14OCT19. (Brussels departure on 14OCT19 will operate Brussels – Almaty routing).

KC573 TSE1200 – 1430BRU 767 11OCT19
KC573 TSE0100 – 0330BRU 767 14OCT19

KC574 BRU1600 – 0200+1TSE 767 11OCT19
KC576 BRU0700 – 1700ALA 767 14OCT19

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