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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis » 06 Feb 2019, 21:19

BRUpilot wrote:
04 Feb 2019, 17:25
Let’s raise our critical voices once again.

I Is BRU brewing on something big (LATAM, Norwegian...) or what are we experiencing?

What do you think about these thoughts? Am I too negative?
Forget about Norwegian, they are financial in very deep water and not reliable for the moment. Think about what happened with Primera Air. Now also Ryanair has to take more drastic descions after not good performance.

The real grow has to come from established carriers. Like I always mentioned, LH is the pain in the ass for BRU at this moment. They really have a big influence on other carriers to not fly to BRU or to not increase the capacity, * Alliance speaking of course.
SN is also not growing just like OS. The CEO of OS wants to replace the long haul fleet but he received a "NO" from LH bcs they are not profitable.
This is really cutting your wings

If for this year or not, we will see, but rather for next year I believe as talks with Far East, African and South America carriers is ongoing.

If LH don't allow to grow here, than other carriers from other alliances will do ;)

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Post by Atlantis » 10 Feb 2019, 13:10

Egyptair is going to increase the number of flights to BRU with an extra flight on Saturday. Egyptair will offer then 6 flights a week in codeshare with Brussels Airlines

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Post by sn26567 » 10 Feb 2019, 13:43

Atlantis wrote:
10 Feb 2019, 13:10
Egyptair is going to increase the number of flights to BRU with an extra flight on Saturday. Egyptair will offer then 6 flights a week in codeshare with Brussels Airlines
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/egyp ... -brussels/
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Post by TLspotting » 10 Feb 2019, 15:08

I knew it from the newsletter but something to know is that the sheet of paper with flights info at "Salon des Vacances" at Brussels Expo states well that there are only 5 flights per week...
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Post by lumumba » 12 Feb 2019, 05:44

I'm always shocked how Flemish this airport is this morning while I clearly speak in French the answer always comes back in Dutch.
I have to tell them that I don't understand Dutch to make the employees speak French with me!!!!!
I'm the only one to experience this?????
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Post by cathay belgium » 12 Feb 2019, 07:09

Hi,

Sounds like Brussels City when you speak Dutch and only get answers in French ;) !

Ridiculous both ways nevertheless....

Well French stays difficult for a lot of flemish people .. Maybe English is a great common for communication but It shouldn't be thé case when working in our national airport..

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Post by Stij » 12 Feb 2019, 08:00

lumumba wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 05:44
I'm always shocked how Flemish this airport is this morning while I clearly speak in French the answer always comes back in Dutch.
I have to tell them that I don't understand Dutch to make the employees speak French with me!!!!!
I'm the only one to experience this?????
Being Flemish I regret that some of my fellow Flemish speaking Belgians don't speak French as 20 years ago whereas the French speaking Belgians have improved their knowledge of Flemish. On average the Flemish speak better French than the the French speaking speak Dutch but still...

When working at "an airport" in Belgium and having contact with passengers one should speak at least Dutch, French and English. I'm sorry for the German speaking Belgians... ;-) And you speak the language of the customer aka the passenger.

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Stij - Speaks Dutch, French, English, German and Italiano

P.S. In my professional life it's now a habit that everybody speaks his own language: fair, but even more difficult.
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Post by Matt » 12 Feb 2019, 08:13

lumumba wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 05:44
I'm always shocked how Flemish this airport is this morning while I clearly speak in French the answer always comes back in Dutch.
I have to tell them that I don't understand Dutch to make the employees speak French with me!!!!!
I'm the only one to experience this?????
I am always shocked how French Brussels is every day while I clearly speak in Dutch the answer always comes back in French.
I have to tell them that I don't understand French and they still speak French with me!!!!! ;) ;) ;)

Live with it I am afraid. Zaventem STILL IS on Flemish soil with a lot of workmen coming from Flanders, while Brussels is supposed to be 'bilingual'. I stopped caring a looooooong time ago. Better for my peace of mind.

Also, main answer on this will be: 'It's Brussels airport! it's supposed to be bilingual!'

Then make it 'Brussels Airport' and let the planes fly over Brussels and Flanders and stop the 'forbidden routes' nonsense ;) Having all the benefits ( cash flow ) and non of the burdens is hardly fair now is it? 8-)

ANYWAY, sorry for going off topic.
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Post by sn26567 » 12 Feb 2019, 09:27

Oh no, not again this out of topic discussion. There are other fora for that. Back to topic, please: summer 2019 at Brussels Airport. Any other post will be removed immediately.
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Post by 737MAX » 12 Feb 2019, 10:07

sn26567 wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 09:27
Oh no, not again this out of topic discussion. There are other fora for that. Back to topic, please: summer 2019 at Brussels Airport. Any other post will be removed immediately.
What’s off topic exactly? Isn’t that about Brussels Airport in 2019?

It’s a fair discussion about the use of langages at the main belgian airport. I don’t see any problem with that, as long as nobody comes with stupid things like « fly over Brussels instead of Flanders », that’s the difficult part to avoid, I guess.

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Post by Matt » 12 Feb 2019, 10:16

737MAX wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 10:07

It’s a fair discussion about the use of langages at the main belgian airport. I don’t see any problem with that, as long as nobody comes with stupid things like « fly over Brussels instead of Flanders », that’s the difficult part to avoid, I guess.
Off course I meant "fly over Brussels and Flanders" ;) :D

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Post by sn26567 » 12 Feb 2019, 10:32

737MAX wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 10:07
sn26567 wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 09:27
Oh no, not again this out of topic discussion. There are other fora for that. Back to topic, please: summer 2019 at Brussels Airport. Any other post will be removed immediately.
What’s off topic exactly? Isn’t that about Brussels Airport in 2019?
It's about BRU Summer 2019: news, routes, airlines, not languages!
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Post by sn26567 » 14 Feb 2019, 11:40

LOT Polish Airlines will launch 12 weekly flights between Brussels and Budapest from 2 September.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lot- ... bucharest/

To Brussels LOT will fly with E195 aircraft from Mondays to Saturdays based on the following schedule:

BUD-BRU 07:10-09:15
BRU-BUD 10:00-11:50

BUD-BRU 17:25-19:30
BRU-BUD 20:15-22:10

Thus LOT does it again: competing with a fellow Star Alliance member (SN) on the same route!
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Post by lumumba » 14 Feb 2019, 11:43

Brussel Airlines does not have 2 flights every week day to Lisboa?!?!
This is a downgrade compared to previous years?
Brussels Airlines is increasing his market share at Brussels Airport but on the Russian or Portuguese market for example they are weaker than before...
TAP will add 2 flights a day to Porto and the Faro flights are very weak once a week....
I'm surprised because Porto is a strong economic place there is a potential for the hub in Brussels.
TAP will make it with a small hub in Porto.....
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Post by airbuske » 14 Feb 2019, 15:41

Brussels Airlines will fly daily to FAO , second daily flight on saturdays between May and October.
Daily flights between Brussels and Lisbon , second daily flight between April and October .
Two daily flights between BRU and Porto as from March.
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Post by lumumba » 14 Feb 2019, 18:30

airbuske wrote:
14 Feb 2019, 15:41
Brussels Airlines will fly daily to FAO , second daily flight on saturdays between May and October.
Daily flights between Brussels and Lisbon , second daily flight between April and October .
Two daily flights between BRU and Porto as from March.
Will the Porto flights be two daily in winter timetable also?
In the winter is Brussels Airlines offering less seats than Ryanair on the Lisbon route :( ...and that with a hub and spoke!
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Post by luchtzak » 14 Feb 2019, 19:28

lumumba wrote:
14 Feb 2019, 18:30
airbuske wrote:
14 Feb 2019, 15:41
Brussels Airlines will fly daily to FAO , second daily flight on saturdays between May and October.
Daily flights between Brussels and Lisbon , second daily flight between April and October .
Two daily flights between BRU and Porto as from March.
Will the Porto flights be two daily in winter timetable also?
In the winter is Brussels Airlines offering less seats than Ryanair on the Lisbon route :( ...and that with a hub and spoke!
Perhaps the winter season is less profitable than summer season ? it's all about profitability ...

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Post by SabenaForever » 20 Feb 2019, 23:16

brussels airlines in the second-half of April 2019 is temporary adjusting service to East Africa, where the airline temporary scheduled Brussels – Nairobi – Entebbe – Brussels routing. This routing will be operated on 24APR19 and 29APR19, with Airbus A330-300 aircraft.

SN489 BRU1020 – 1950NBO2100 – 2215EBB2320 – 0635+1BRU 333

SN489 on 24APR19 and 29APR19 will replace Brussels – Kigali – Entebbe – Brussels routing, although Nairobi service is not available for reservation.

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Post by sn26567 » 21 Feb 2019, 00:18

SabenaForever wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 23:16
brussels airlines in the second half of April 2019 is temporary adjusting service to East Africa, where the airline temporary scheduled Brussels – Nairobi – Entebbe – Brussels routing. This routing will be operated on 24APR19 and 29APR19, with Airbus A330-300 aircraft.

SN489 BRU1020 – 1950NBO2100 – 2215EBB2320 – 0635+1BRU 333

SN489 on 24APR19 and 29APR19 will replace Brussels – Kigali – Entebbe – Brussels routing, although Nairobi service is not available for reservation.
Very strange. Why fly to NBO when reservation is not allowed? And why skip KGL to do that?
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Post by airbuske » 21 Feb 2019, 08:18

sn26567 wrote:
21 Feb 2019, 00:18
SabenaForever wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 23:16
brussels airlines in the second half of April 2019 is temporary adjusting service to East Africa, where the airline temporary scheduled Brussels – Nairobi – Entebbe – Brussels routing. This routing will be operated on 24APR19 and 29APR19, with Airbus A330-300 aircraft.

SN489 BRU1020 – 1950NBO2100 – 2215EBB2320 – 0635+1BRU 333

SN489 on 24APR19 and 29APR19 will replace Brussels – Kigali – Entebbe – Brussels routing, although Nairobi service is not available for reservation.
Very strange. Why fly to NBO when reservation is not allowed? And why skip KGL to do that?
This is for a commercial partnership.
Møre info will follow.
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