VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

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Re: New deliveries/special colours to look for at Brussels airport

Post by Bralo20 » 13 Jul 2018, 11:53

sn26567 wrote:
12 Jul 2018, 21:44
Using registrations traditionally (but not excusively) reserved for SN? :roll:
Maybe they'll rebrand as Sabena :mrgreen:
Although I doubt that LH sold the brand.

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Re: VLM Airlines Brussels (ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by TLspotting » 13 Jul 2018, 13:18

Bralo20 wrote:
13 Jul 2018, 11:53
sn26567 wrote:
12 Jul 2018, 21:44
Using registrations traditionally (but not excusively) reserved for SN? :roll:
Maybe they'll rebrand as Sabena :mrgreen:
Although I doubt that LH sold the brand.
It would be nice ! I still have the idea in my pocket !

I think the name is already chosen, that's why the OO-SB* series...

A name like Sierra Belgium Airways or Sierra Bird Airways would be nice !
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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by koninckske » 13 Jul 2018, 18:52

SB... Sobelair?

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Re: New deliveries/special colours to look for at Brussels airport

Post by CTBke » 15 Jul 2018, 13:06

sn26567 wrote:
12 Jul 2018, 21:44
C96C wrote:
12 Jul 2018, 18:41
OO-SBA A321-231 VLM Airlines Brussels (ex G-ZBAF)
Using registrations traditionally (but not excusively) reserved for SN? :roll:
maybe SN will go for OO-EW in the future ? :D :lol:
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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by DAT2527 » 15 Jul 2018, 18:26

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Well, the brand name 'Sabena' was for sale some years ago...

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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by DAT2527 » 31 Jul 2018, 12:22

First commercial flight of the new a321 00-SBA seems to be 01/08/18.


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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by CTBke » 31 Jul 2018, 15:01

DAT2527 wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 12:22
First commercial flight of the new a321 00-SBA seems to be 01/08/18.
where to ? :-)
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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by nordikcam » 31 Jul 2018, 15:47

CTBke wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 15:01
DAT2527 wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 12:22
First commercial flight of the new a321 00-SBA seems to be 01/08/18.
where to ? :-)
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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by sn26567 » 03 Sep 2018, 19:15

VLM Airlines felt necessary to issue a press release today to deny it was in liquidation. Friday's press release of SHS Aviation announcing the bankruptcy of VLM Regional Antwerp sent confusion on the market.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/vlm- ... quidation/

When VLM was split into two parts, one of them (ideally the Brussels one) should have changed names immediately to avoid such a confusion. And even now, a name change is highly desirable in order not to be associated with a dommed brand name.
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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by C96C » 31 Oct 2018, 18:43

OO-TCT has left the fleet of VLM Airlines. It was ferried on 27/10 to MAN:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-tct

And has been cancelled on the Belgian aircraft register today (31/10):
http://www.mobilit.fgov.be:7081/bcaa/ai ... search.jsf

According to Planespotters.net she will fly for Thomas Cook Airlines Balearics in the future:
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... cs/j6GGind

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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by Mr Frost » 07 Nov 2018, 08:14

They just signed for 2 a330
First one will come in januari

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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by luchtzak » 07 Nov 2018, 08:16

Mr Frost wrote:
07 Nov 2018, 08:14
They just signed for 2 a330
First one will come in januari
Do you have some more information Mr Frost ?

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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by Fairfax » 07 Nov 2018, 12:15

They seem to be running a rather stable ACMI operation (in silence)? I also noticed on the "moniteur" that they received a significant capital injection in june. Could they have a chance to survive?

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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by tangolima » 07 Nov 2018, 12:19

Hello

Heard the same now about these A330's. Will be used for BRU china flights and are coming from a German club (Ex Air Berlin?) But like said just rumours!

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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by Passenger » 07 Nov 2018, 12:26

Fairfax wrote:
07 Nov 2018, 12:15
They seem to be running a rather stable ACMI operation (in silence)? I also noticed on the "moniteur" that they received a significant capital injection in june. Could they have a chance to survive?
It's not the kind of capital raise that bank managers like to see, because no cash is injected: “...De inbreng in natura voor een bedrag van € 8.179.534 door de Besloten Vennootschap SF Aviation Holding, tot kapitaalverhoging van de naamloze vennootschap VLM Airlines (“de Vennootschap), bestaat uit de inbreng van schuldvorderingen ten bedrage van € 8.179.534 ten aanzien van de Besloten Vennootschap SF Aviation Holding..."

Google Translates this is into: "...The contribution in kind for an amount of € 8,179,534 by the Private Company SF Aviation Holding, to increase the capital of the limited company VLM Airlines ("the Company), consists of the contribution of debts to the amount of € 8,179,534 in respect of the Private limited company SF Aviation Holding..."

http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/tsv_pd ... 317369.pdf

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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by luchtzak » 07 Nov 2018, 12:27

tangolima wrote:
07 Nov 2018, 12:19
Heard the same now about these A330's. Will be used for BRU china flights and are coming from a German club (Ex Air Berlin?) But like said just rumours!
We need a little more than a rumour to write an article (and a scoop) ;-)

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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by TLspotting » 07 Nov 2018, 12:50

I posted on my own Facebook page what is wrote here, but the basic info.

VLM Airlines NV has no clear way to contact them, so I'll try to send them a letter to their HQ
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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by sn26567 » 07 Nov 2018, 14:07

It is clear that, if two A330s are acquired, they will come from a lessor who will require serious guarantees that he will be paid.
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Re: VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

Post by convair » 07 Nov 2018, 17:40

Passenger wrote:
07 Nov 2018, 12:26
It's not the kind of capital raise that bank managers like to see, because no cash is injected:
Google Translates this is into: "...The contribution in kind for an amount of € 8,179,534 by the Private Company SF Aviation Holding, to increase the capital of the limited company VLM Airlines ("the Company), consists of the contribution of debts to the amount of € 8,179,534 in respect of the Private limited company SF Aviation Holding..."
http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/tsv_pd ... 317369.pdf
It's only psychological imho: such contribution in kind is as good as a cash injection whilst leaving the debt untouched, even for bankers. Whatever the method used, the company is € 8,179,534 richer (or less poor :) ) after that operation. [And, btw, it's much better than if the shareholders were merely granting an additional loan.]
In this particular case, such capital increase (whether by cash injection or contribution in kind) over what was a meager € 65,000 capital should give the banks more confidence and possibly (depending of the level and term of its other current debts) enable the company to borrow from banks, if only for (part of) its working capital.

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