VLM Airlines (Brussels, ex-Thomas Cook) news 2018

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FLYAIR10
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by FLYAIR10 » 24 Jan 2018, 12:09

Extra destinations from Antwerp to the Balkans in the next few months.
With the planned/rumoured expansion plans I guess they will need more than the 4 F50's they have now operational.
How useable are the other 2 F50's VLM officially still has?
Or will there be something new? F70? F100? XXX?

koninckske
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by koninckske » 24 Jan 2018, 12:14

I heard some rumours about Ejets... They work very well for TUI from ANR, seems a logical choice and no big gamble like the Sukhoi.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by ostair » 24 Jan 2018, 12:43

This is what Mr Runge said in a interview.
Perhaps we will see something like a Antwerp-Vienna-Zagreb line?

He also mentioned a fleet renewal so perhaps a direct line from ANR.

TUI already serve Split from ANR and this works.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Haplek » 24 Jan 2018, 16:26

ostair wrote:
24 Jan 2018, 12:43
Perhaps we will see something like a Antwerp-Vienna-Zagreb line?
If they try to sell some tickets on VIE-ZAG route they will fail in my opinion. Because in this case Croatia Airlines (OU) and Austrian Airlines (OS) will start dumping fares on the route and squeeze VLM out within few months or even less. They are both full Star Alliance member airlines and incomparable to VLM Airlines.
So I believe that they do not really have a chance to make it profitable.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by AAI » 24 Jan 2018, 17:48

there will be 5 F50 operational
1 LCY + BHX
1 ZRH + MAN
1 MUC MBX BEG
1 charter
1 back up

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by DIBO » 24 Jan 2018, 22:27

ostair wrote:
24 Jan 2018, 12:43
TUI already serve Split from ANR and this works.
only seasonal and operated/backed by a large tourism company. Not comparable with VLM

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by DIBO » 24 Jan 2018, 22:29

Haplek wrote:
24 Jan 2018, 16:26
So I believe that they do not really have a chance to make it profitable.
very sensible remark

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Haplek » 24 Jan 2018, 22:35

DIBO wrote:
24 Jan 2018, 22:29
very sensible remark
Thank you DIBO.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by sn26567 » 24 Jan 2018, 22:45

AAI wrote:
24 Jan 2018, 17:48
there will be 5 F50 operational
1 LCY + BHX
1 ZRH + MAN
1 MUC MBX BEG
1 charter
1 back up
Does this include the F50 operating for VizionAir?
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by ostair » 25 Jan 2018, 05:26

Hi Haplek, was just a example.
I have no idea what their idea is of flying to the Balkans.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by AAI » 25 Jan 2018, 14:22

that's OO-VLN VizionAir for charters included.

Haplek
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Haplek » 25 Jan 2018, 22:30

ostair wrote:
25 Jan 2018, 05:26
Hi Haplek, was just a example.
I have no idea what their idea is of flying to the Balkans.
Oh, sorry, I took it too seriously...
When we talk about Balkans i believe that there are some routes VLM could fly from Maribor as from its secondary base. (Utilising its F50 fleet)

Throughout the year:
MBX - BEG (Belgrade)

Seasonal:
MBX - SPU (Split)
MBX - DBV (Dubrovnik)

There are also some other routes that could however only be logical with good transfer possibilities at MBX or/and code-share with some larger airlines.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by koninckske » 25 Jan 2018, 22:57

Current routes loaded for summer 2018:
ANR-LCY 3 daily Mo-Fri, 1 on Sunday
ANR-ZRH 2 daily Mo-Fri
ANR-MUC 2 daily Mo-Fri
ANR-BHX 1 daily Mo-Fri
MUC-MBX 1 daily Mo-Fri

They will operate with VG airline code again (like the old VLM) and not with the Slovenian VO code as from 25 March 2018.

More to come?

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by VLM_Antwerp » 31 Jan 2018, 10:12

Are there any figures already on how the Zurich route is doing?
Figures for the LCY route are also welcome! :D

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Shengenzone » 31 Jan 2018, 11:39

VLM_Antwerp wrote:
31 Jan 2018, 10:12
Are there any figures already on how the Zurich route is doing?
Figures for the LCY route are also welcome! :D
Took the zurich flight 2 times so far .
1 flight: 4 pax and another flight: 6 pax
On the london route they seem to be hovering around 30 pax now (much better than in the beginning where it was around 15)

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Shengenzone » 31 Jan 2018, 11:42

koninckske wrote:
25 Jan 2018, 22:57
Current routes loaded for summer 2018:
ANR-LCY 3 daily Mo-Fri, 1 on Sunday
ANR-ZRH 2 daily Mo-Fri
ANR-MUC 2 daily Mo-Fri
ANR-BHX 1 daily Mo-Fri
MUC-MBX 1 daily Mo-Fri

They will operate with VG airline code again (like the old VLM) and not with the Slovenian VO code as from 25 March 2018.

More to come?
They requested slots for MAN flights to OST and ANR.
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VLM_Antwerp
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by VLM_Antwerp » 31 Jan 2018, 11:48

Shengenzone wrote:
31 Jan 2018, 11:39
VLM_Antwerp wrote:
31 Jan 2018, 10:12
Are there any figures already on how the Zurich route is doing?
Figures for the LCY route are also welcome! :D
Took the zurich flight 2 times so far .
1 flight: 4 pax and another flight: 6 pax
On the london route they seem to be hovering around 30 pax now (much better than in the beginning where it was around 15)
Sad to hear about the Zurich LF. However, it has only been one week now.
Regarding the London LF, I'm glad this is getting better.
Thanks for the info btw!

Not Real
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Not Real » 31 Jan 2018, 14:09

It's sad indeed, but as I wrote already - is the airline or the airport promoted in the regio? No. I'm afraid that many people still don't know that VLM is back!

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by crew1990 » 31 Jan 2018, 14:53

Actually for many Belgian, VLM is actually an unknown brand, not like brussels airlines and tuifly, I think they should me advertise, and please not with a foto of a Fokker 50

Haplek
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Haplek » 31 Jan 2018, 15:34

How many F50 aircraft are currently operational at VLM Airlines? I know that there are 3+3 in AOCs but how many of them really fly or is able to?

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