Air Belgium in 2018

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

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Niky Terzakis CEO Air Belgium on FB:


"Air Transport World (ATW) article. Accurate report, except for the statement suggesting that the Chinese company UTOUR is not a Shareholder into Air Belgium."

Air Belgium eyes 7 Chinese routes by fall as launch date approaches

Air Belgium is targeting seven Chinese destinations by fall as the startup carrier readies its first flight from Brussels South Charleroi Airport to Hong Kong at the…

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sn26567 wrote:
07 Feb 2018, 10:42
It might be the other way around: premium passengers (and their luggage) bussed to the North terminal?
...
Could well be André.

Notam A0927/18 -
ACFT STANDS 51B, 55B, 57B, 67B AND 80B DEDICATED TO A343 AND CODE D ACFT.
03 APR 13:30 2018 UNTIL PERM.
CREATED: 03 APR 13:34 2018


These stands are on the North Apron.
EBCI Stands Code E.png
Couldn't find where 51B and 80B are though. Probably at angle with 51 and 80 respectively.

Parking the big babies there will make taxiing interesting when some blue/yellows are parked on the southern part of P11-12-13 (nose-in-grass).

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I think they have some work to do about the bookingengine... and it seems you have to pay for Seat assignment in Business?? :?

http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/ ... -problems/

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

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British Airways (and perhaps other airlines) charges around 100 euros per long-haul leg for seat selection in Business class and it is not, afaik, a low cost airline !

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Ansett wrote:
06 Apr 2018, 01:00
British Airways (and perhaps other airlines) charges around 100 euros per long-haul leg for seat selection in Business class and it is not, afaik, a low cost airline !
Didn’t know that... But ok paying for Seats in business, it’s New for me. ;)

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Does someone know when the first AB's aircraft will be ferried from BRU to CRL ?

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Amavro wrote:
06 Apr 2018, 11:09
Does someone know when the first AB's aircraft will be ferried from BRU to CRL ?
I asked AB on Tuesday :
"Not this week but in a few days"

Btw...
OO-ABA have been towed to H40 or H41 this morning...
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Hi everyone :) I'm new here :)
It seems that Air Belgium's OO-ABA is doing another charter tonight (customer unknown at this point). It will fly first to Milan Malpensa (MXP) and then further on to Havana Cuba (HAV). No further details known yet.

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big bird wrote:
06 Apr 2018, 12:47
Hi everyone :) I'm new here :)
It seems that Air Belgium's OO-ABA is doing another charter tonight (customer unknown at this point). It will fly first to Milan Malpensa (MXP) and then further on to Havana Cuba (HAV). No further details known yet.
Thanks for the news big bird, and a big welcome on board aviation24.be!

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Thanks lucktzak ;-)

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That's probably why it have been towed to H40,for a check...
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Probably for Blue Panorama Airlines
AB Havana.JPG

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big bird wrote:
06 Apr 2018, 15:03
Probably for Blue Panorama AirlinesAB Havana.JPG
It will be.
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According to the Spotters' forum, the flight will be operated by OO-ABB, leaving BRU to MXP at 21:15 tonight.

Schedule of tomorrow's flight (and the return on the next day):

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BV1618 MXP-HAV 16:25 - 22:15 A343 
BV1619 HAV-MXP 01:20 - 17:20 A343 
This supposes that two crews are available to operate the flights, since there is no rest period in HAV.
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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

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It never ceases to amaze me how "managers" hope to run yield management from day 1 on routes without feeding and with heavy competition, only to price themselves out of the market. So much for being a "disruptor".

Scarce return tickets at 450 EUR return, but mostly at over 500 EUR return
In the meanwhile CX is at 570 EUR return from BRU while BA is below 500 EUR via LHR. AB can't promote themselves like this.

A word of advice: start selling at max. 299 EUR return in Y, 999 EUR return in C.
Empty seats don't cover any costs and you can't advertise yourself.
If I were the CEO, I would launch the first flights with 199 EUR fares. Gets people talking and checking AB before other options, while some bills get paid.

Once you fill the airplane, start jacking fares up gradually.

If they continue like this, they won't last. It looks like they don't know what they're doing.
I hoped for them to succeed but like this they don't stand a chance.

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Flanker3 wrote:
06 Apr 2018, 19:23
It never ceases to amaze me how "managers" hope to run yield management from day 1 on routes without feeding and with heavy competition, only to price themselves out of the market. So much for being a "disruptor".

Scarce return tickets at 450 EUR return, but mostly at over 500 EUR return
In the meanwhile CX is at 570 EUR return from BRU while BA is below 500 EUR via LHR. AB can't promote themselves like this.

A word of advice: start selling at max. 299 EUR return in Y, 999 EUR return in C.
Empty seats don't cover any costs and you can't advertise yourself.
If I were the CEO, I would launch the first flights with 199 EUR fares. Gets people talking and checking AB before other options, while some bills get paid.

Once you fill the airplane, start jacking fares up gradually.

If they continue like this, they won't last. It looks like they don't know what they're doing.
I hoped for them to succeed but like this they don't stand a chance.
I guess they mainly target Chinese (tourists) and they consider Europeans/Belgians flying the other way only an extra?

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If the Chinese have almost 50% of the shares, it seems logical to me that the major part of the seats will already be filled with Chinese tourists who booked with this Chinese tour-operator.

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sn26567 wrote:
06 Apr 2018, 18:33
According to the Spotters' forum, the flight will be operated by OO-ABB, leaving BRU to MXP at 21:15 tonight.

Schedule of tomorrow's flight (and the return on the next day):

Code: Select all

BV1618 MXP-HAV 16:25 - 22:15 A343 
BV1619 HAV-MXP 01:20 - 17:20 A343 
This supposes that two crews are available to operate the flights, since there is no rest period in HAV.
Just a question : could it be that the crew that will fly the plane back to Milan was sent to Havana yesterday or today with another airline ? (and benefiting fom a day's rest before flying the plane back to MXP).

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

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OO-ABB is now taxiing (21:18)

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

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OO-ABB is now lining up at 25R. You can follow the flight here: https://www.flightradar24.com/50.9,4.5/14

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