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Your comparison taking the inaugural flight is unfair. You should take random dates in May: I've done it and KF/ABB is by far the cheapest with 448.37 € return.
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sn26567 wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:21 Your comparison taking the inaugural flight is unfair.
I think it depends how you look at the flight. We all know it's their inaugural flight, so OK. From a normal passenger's point of view however, it's not really unfair if I really need to take the flight on these specific dates.

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sn26567 wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:21 Your comparison taking the inaugural flight is unfair. You should take random dates in May: I've done it and KF/ABB is by far the cheapest with 448.37 € return.
Indeed, and a 2 day stay in HKG is not representative for the average traveller either.
As soon as you go for a stay of 7 days or more it’s easy to find 449 return, a bargain!

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Apuneger wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:24
sn26567 wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:21 Your comparison taking the inaugural flight is unfair.
I think it depends how you look at the flight. We all know it's their inaugural flight, so OK. From a normal passenger's point of view however, it's not really unfair if I really need to take the flight on these specific dates.

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It is unfair, because you target the most expensive AB combination.

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Poiu wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:27 It is unfair, because you target the most expensive AB combination.
I'm not saying that Air Belgium will be the most expensive for all flights between Belgium and Hong Kong. I was just making a comparison for a given flight on a given date, which is, in my humble opinion, never unfair from a traveller's point of view.

In fact, Air Belgium's fares appear to be the cheapest when traveling in May for few more days...

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JustPlanes wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 09:55 Sorry but if you have 2 airplanes and 4 flights a week no way should there be 2 days without a flight... specially on Friday Saturday out of Belgium or no weekend flight out of China...
Very strange flight schedule indeed for a stand-alone airline: CRL-HKG 1-34--7 and HKG-CRL 12-45--. When something unforeseen happens on a Thursday (outbound) or a Friday (inbound), there is no Alliance flight for a reschedule. Passengers thus are stuck for three days.

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TLspotting wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 09:51 Flights are the following :
KF851 ABB851(?) CRL-HKG 14:00 07:30+1 1-34--7
KF852 ABB852(?) HKG-CRL 11:30 18:15 12-45--
So Air Belgium has a Finn among its key staff, it has former Finnair aircraft and has adopted Blue1's IATA-code. What's next? A partnership with Finnair? 😊

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quixoticguide wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 13:07 You can't book one way flights with AB?
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Passenger wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:50
JustPlanes wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 09:55 Sorry but if you have 2 airplanes and 4 flights a week no way should there be 2 days without a flight... specially on Friday Saturday out of Belgium or no weekend flight out of China...
Very strange flight schedule indeed for a stand-alone airline: CRL-HKG 1-34--7 and HKG-CRL 12-45--. When something unforeseen happens on a Thursday (outbound) or a Friday (inbound), there is no Alliance flight for a reschedule. Passengers thus are stuck for three days.
Pax will take a bus to BRU...in case !

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Apuneger wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:24
sn26567 wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:21 Your comparison taking the inaugural flight is unfair.
We all know it's their inaugural flight, so OK. From a normal passenger's point of view however, it's not really unfair if I really need to take the flight on these specific dates.
Don't call it a random check then.

Yes, some pax may need to fly on these days; they should choose another airline for cheaper flights then, as you so brilliantly demonstrate.

When you want to make a point, you can always find a way. :)

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TLspotting wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 13:25
quixoticguide wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 13:07 You can't book one way flights with AB?
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Passenger wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:50
JustPlanes wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 09:55 Sorry but if you have 2 airplanes and 4 flights a week no way should there be 2 days without a flight... specially on Friday Saturday out of Belgium or no weekend flight out of China...
Very strange flight schedule indeed for a stand-alone airline: CRL-HKG 1-34--7 and HKG-CRL 12-45--. When something unforeseen happens on a Thursday (outbound) or a Friday (inbound), there is no Alliance flight for a reschedule. Passengers thus are stuck for three days.
Per EU rules, isn't Air Belgium entitled to rebook its passengers on another carrier's next flight (e.g CX to BRU ?) in case of operational failure ?
Don't they have any rebooking agreement with an airlines operating out of HK to Europe in the same time frame ?

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Apuneger wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:34
Poiu wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 12:27 It is unfair, because you target the most expensive AB combination.
I'm not saying that Air Belgium will be the most expensive for all flights between Belgium and Hong Kong. I was just making a comparison for a given flight on a given date, which is, in my humble opinion, never unfair from a traveller's point of view.

In fact, Air Belgium's fares appear to be the cheapest when traveling in May for few more days...

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And in June and in July and in August ..... :roll:

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Darjeeling wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 13:55 Per EU rules, isn't Air Belgium entitled to rebook its passengers on another carrier's next flight (e.g CX to BRU ?) in case of operational failure ?
Don't they have any rebooking agreement with an airlines operating out of HK to Europe in the same time frame?
Sure, in case of an internal/operational problem, Air Belgium has to find and will find a solution. On a side note: CX as alternative when the AB-aircraft is AOG is not possible - then it's just wait till the aircraft is fixed.

What member JustPlanes probably suggested - from his 15 or 20 years of experience as Sabena station manager in Boston - is that on every flight, there are passengers who show up too late for a variety of reasons. Forgotten passport, wrong airport, shuttle-transfer that went wrong, a road accident causing a huge traffic pile up, a business meeting that ended too late, ... And when such things happens on a Thursday, Air Belgium can only offer them a next flight on three days later.

As a stand alone airline, they can't rely on other carriers. Sure, they may have interline agreements with other airlines (example for own booking errors), but they won't offer this when the client caused the missed flight.

Another correct remark from JustPlanes: there are no outgoing flights on Friday (late evening) or Saturday - the ideal flight day for holiday makers.

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nordikcam wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 11:24 To illustrate Hong Kong, a photo of Hong Kong and to illustrate Charleroi, ...a pic of Mont des Arts in Brussels :-)
And the Atomium, ''Brussels South Charleroi ✈'' 😉
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travellover wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 14:35
nordikcam wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 11:24 To illustrate Hong Kong, a photo of Hong Kong and to illustrate Charleroi, ...a pic of Mont des Arts in Brussels :-)
And the Atomium, ''Brussels South Charleroi ✈'' 😉
The message on the photo is clear: Take a sip of...Brussels.

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