Air Belgium in 2018

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Ozzie1969 wrote: 02 May 2018, 19:36
lumumba wrote: 02 May 2018, 10:58 And here we go again is De Croo really going like an elephant in porcelain shop!
I'm not an expert on zoology, but I do know that the correct saying is 'a bull in a china shop'. No elephant to be seen here. :)
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Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Bull is too soft for the mess that De Croo jr. (federal minister of Development) caused on the diplomatic scene there. Elephant really is the right word.

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Air Belgium is promoting its flights to Hong Kong. I have seen ads on this forum and some other sites as well. Seems that they realised that they need to do something to get some extra passengers.

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jan_olieslagers wrote: 02 May 2018, 17:39 Thank you. But I concur with @Passenger: who then are (some of) the others?
The ones I know probably avoid to confront the authorities, so they might prefer not to go public. No idea if the major airlines are affected.

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Both planes departed CRL today, one of them wear a TB flight number. Any idea of the place they're going?

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ABA stays in BRU for maintenance.
ABB to AGA for TUI.

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mad_fab wrote: 03 May 2018, 17:12 ABA stays in BRU for maintenance.
ABB to AGA for TUI.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=63595

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mad_fab wrote: 03 May 2018, 17:12 ABA stays in BRU for maintenance.
ABB to AGA for TUI.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-abb

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Yuqu12 wrote: 03 May 2018, 09:00 Air Belgium is promoting its flights to Hong Kong. I have seen ads on this forum and some other sites as well. Seems that they realised that they need to do something to get some extra passengers.
Would you book with an airline that still does not fulfill all conditions to start flying ?

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ttubbie wrote: 03 May 2018, 20:20
Yuqu12 wrote: 03 May 2018, 09:00 Air Belgium is promoting its flights to Hong Kong. I have seen ads on this forum and some other sites as well. Seems that they realised that they need to do something to get some extra passengers.
Would you book with an airline that still does not fulfill all conditions to start flying ?
We know that, but not everyone does so. And I'm not planning to go to Hong Kong anytime soon, so I'm probably not booking with AB anyway

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ttubbie wrote: 03 May 2018, 20:20 Would you book with an airline that still does not fulfill all conditions to start flying ?
An advantage Air Belgium has towards Cathay (and Hainan) is that EU-Rule 261/2004 applies for both CRL-HKG and HKG-CRL. Whilst for Cathay, EU-Rule 261/2004 only applies for their outgoing flight (= out of Belgium). And not for HKG-BRU.

And with the ongoing problems, payment of the ticket by credit card is a must-do. When things would go wrong, one can apply a credit card dispute (the C-Form) to reclaim payment for a non-delivered service.

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luchtzak wrote: 03 May 2018, 17:15
mad_fab wrote: 03 May 2018, 17:12 ABB to AGA for TUI.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=63595
And Malaga ànd Chania, also for TUI:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-abb

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Arriving at LGG this afternoon...
Link to photo : https://www.netairspace.com/pic/241824/

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Passenger wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:04
luchtzak wrote: 03 May 2018, 17:15
mad_fab wrote: 03 May 2018, 17:12 ABB to AGA for TUI.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=63595
And Malaga ànd Chania, also for TUI:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-abb
Are they flying full load, or are they pricing it like a B737 or equivalent (+- 180 pax) ?

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Nevihta wrote: 05 May 2018, 13:27
Passenger wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:04
luchtzak wrote: 03 May 2018, 17:15

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=63595
And Malaga ànd Chania, also for TUI:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-abb
Are they flying full load, or are they pricing it like a B737 or equivalent (+- 180 pax) ?
ACMI is changed per hour or per flight, independent of the load.
It is probably cheaper for TUI to pay the 340 than paying the EU compensation for cancelled flight.

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Spotted both OO-ABA and OO-ABB today at Brussels Airport ✈️✈️

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luchtzak wrote: 05 May 2018, 16:38 Spotted both OO-ABA and OO-ABB today at Brussels Airport ✈️✈️
Any pics? ;) :?:
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I only saw 1 Air Belgium (OO-ABA), obviously with a broken engine ;-)
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Poiu wrote: 05 May 2018, 15:29
Nevihta wrote: 05 May 2018, 13:27
Passenger wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:04
And Malaga ànd Chania, also for TUI:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-abb
Are they flying full load, or are they pricing it like a B737 or equivalent (+- 180 pax) ?
ACMI is changed per hour or per flight, independent of the load.
It is probably cheaper for TUI to pay the 340 than paying the EU compensation for cancelled flight.
What I mean is TUI probably needed something like a B737 or A320, so is Air Belgium pricing it like so, or is it priced like an A340 and TUI could use the extra capacity ?

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Nevihta wrote: 06 May 2018, 20:36
Poiu wrote: 05 May 2018, 15:29
Nevihta wrote: 05 May 2018, 13:27

Are they flying full load, or are they pricing it like a B737 or equivalent (+- 180 pax) ?
ACMI is changed per hour or per flight, independent of the load.
It is probably cheaper for TUI to pay the 340 than paying the EU compensation for cancelled flight.
What I mean is TUI probably needed something like a B737 or A320, so is Air Belgium pricing it like so, or is it priced like an A340 and TUI could use the extra capacity ?
TUI has to pay for the whole aircraft, they can use 1 seat or all of them, it won’t change the price.
AB on the other can’t use the seats, even if the remain empty (eg staff travel).

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