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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by mvg » 04 Feb 2018, 06:59

Have they told Ryanair/Wizzair/Jetair that each time a A340 (or any aircraft of the same category) operates in CRL:
- it blocks several parking stands
- it blocks all the traffic on the apron (impossible to overtake it like two B737 or A320 can do)
- once it uses the taxiway south, no other movement is allowed on the RUNWAY (taxiway too close)
- it will need a backtrack to depart from the beginning of runway 07 (most of the current operators depart without backtrack)

Therefore, operating a wide body in CRL is going to create important delay to other operators.

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by SLM » 04 Feb 2018, 08:20

Any ideas of timetable hours? tx

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by Shengenzone » 04 Feb 2018, 09:14

Which are the other cities they will serve outside of Hong Kong?

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by Amavro » 04 Feb 2018, 09:53

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by JustPlanes » 04 Feb 2018, 11:00

There may be a big opening for Air Belgium if LH gets rid of SN...

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Post by TLspotting » 04 Feb 2018, 11:47

Shengenzone wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 09:14
Which are the other cities they will serve outside of Hong Kong?
I think : Shenzhen, Tianjin, Xi'an, Guangzhou, Chongqing,... Maybe Shanghai. But these destinations are my thinkings...
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Post by TLspotting » 04 Feb 2018, 11:49

Amavro wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 09:53
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This news was set just after the announcement of Charleroi.

I have a question, when will come the 1st A343 at Charleroi (not mid-February but the real date...) ?
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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by convair » 04 Feb 2018, 13:52

Given the fact that SN cannot codeshare with NH to/from Tokyo, have they received authorization from Moscow to fly over Russia?

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by sn26567 » 04 Feb 2018, 14:50

convair wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 13:52
Given the fact that SN cannot codeshare with NH to/from Tokyo, have they received authorization from Moscow to fly over Russia?
I guess that our Prime Minister Charles Michel forgot to discuss this point during his recent visit to Putin Nd Medvedev. But was he sufficiently briefed? Maybe the SN managers had other things to worry about?
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Post by jan_olieslagers » 04 Feb 2018, 14:52

But was he sufficientlyrics briefed?
With all his qualities, none ever called our PM lyrical :) Think you might wish to check some settings on your mobile phone...

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by sn26567 » 04 Feb 2018, 15:07

jan_olieslagers wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 14:52
But was he sufficientlyrics briefed?
With all his qualities, none ever called our PM lyrical :) Think you might wish to check some settings on your mobile phone...
I corrected this autocorrect mistake within seconds, but apparently not fast enough. 😀
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Post by jan_olieslagers » 04 Feb 2018, 15:11

:) Bad luck, apparently. Do feel free to remove it all!

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by Shonix » 05 Feb 2018, 10:10

mvg wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 06:59
Have they told Ryanair/Wizzair/Jetair that each time a A340 (or any aircraft of the same category) operates in CRL:
- it blocks several parking stands
- it blocks all the traffic on the apron (impossible to overtake it like two B737 or A320 can do)
- once it uses the taxiway south, no other movement is allowed on the RUNWAY (taxiway too close)
- it will need a backtrack to depart from the beginning of runway 07 (most of the current operators depart without backtrack)

Therefore, operating a wide body in CRL is going to create important delay to other operators.
If I'm not mistaken, A340 aircrafts will operate from the South Terminal (old one used prior to 2008).

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by sn26567 » 05 Feb 2018, 10:42

Shonix wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 10:10

If I'm not mistaken, A340 aircrafts will operate from the South Terminal (old one used prior to 2008).
Premium passengers will use the refurbished South Terminal, but Economy passengers will use the regular one.
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Post by TLspotting » 05 Feb 2018, 17:18

Niky Terzakis has been interviewed at the press conference at CRL by Xinhua News.

He talks about Shanghai and Beijing, which are his priorities after HK.
http://french.xinhuanet.com/2018-02/02/c_136943086.htm
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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by sean1982 » 05 Feb 2018, 17:36

sn26567 wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 10:42
Shonix wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 10:10

If I'm not mistaken, A340 aircrafts will operate from the South Terminal (old one used prior to 2008).
Premium passengers will use the refurbished South Terminal, but Economy passengers will use the regular one.
They can bus those passengers over to the south terminal

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by JustPlanes » 06 Feb 2018, 06:13

So am I reading correctly that Air Belgium will start accepting reservations and the end of this month for flights starting the end of next month?
Find it very optimist to expect to carry a decent load given only 4 weeks from the start when other airlines give themselves 6 months which is what Cathay has done for their HKG-BRU route.
But anyway good luck to Air Belgium and hope to see them in the air very soon and very successfully!

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by Shonix » 07 Feb 2018, 10:16

sean1982 wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 17:36
sn26567 wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 10:42
Shonix wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 10:10

If I'm not mistaken, A340 aircrafts will operate from the South Terminal (old one used prior to 2008).
Premium passengers will use the refurbished South Terminal, but Economy passengers will use the regular one.
They can bus those passengers over to the south terminal
I'm just wondering how they'll handle the luggage. It will take a hell of a time to transfer luggage from the North Terminal (where the automated baggage sorting system is located) to the South one with their "Mulag" (or vice versa). By the way, the South Terminal has not an automated baggage sorting system...

Edit: Moreover, as stated below regarding the bus, I don't see Mulags driving on the taxiway and crossing the runway to bring luggage from the North Terminal to the South Terminal... It's completely inefficient. Therefore, I'd like to know where the information stating that "Premium passengers will use the refurbished South Terminal, but Economy passengers will use the regular one" comes from...
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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by Shonix » 07 Feb 2018, 10:22

sean1982 wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 17:36
sn26567 wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 10:42
Shonix wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 10:10

If I'm not mistaken, A340 aircrafts will operate from the South Terminal (old one used prior to 2008).
Premium passengers will use the refurbished South Terminal, but Economy passengers will use the regular one.
They can bus those passengers over to the south terminal
Unfeasable. Passengers have to be transfered airside and I can't imagine a bus riding on the taxiway and crossing the runway.

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

Post by sn26567 » 07 Feb 2018, 10:42

It might be the other way around: premium passengers (and their luggage) bussed to the North terminal?

I will ask Jean-Jacques Cloquet next time I see him (I invited him for a conference to his former colleagues of Solvay in March).
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