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Lufthansa is looking at 787s or additional A350s:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -body-deal

I guess they will not be for SN...

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MD-11forever wrote:
23 Oct 2018, 16:35
Lufthansa is looking at 787s or additional A350s:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -body-deal

I guess they will not be for SN...
They're suggesting those new jets will replace old A340's but neither Airbus or Bieing is keen to take them (back) since resale value has plunged...

The Carsten Spohr solution: send those A340's to SN and after a year or so, start whining on how SN doesn't make enough money... :roll:

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Lufthansa reduces planned growth for 2019: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -for-2019/

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Homo Aeroportus wrote:
17 Mar 2018, 15:54
DannyVDB wrote:
17 Mar 2018, 14:18
Some interesting reading, but also some emerging questions:

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... /2017.html
....
3) On page 18 of the presentation BRU is said to have 52 planes in summer 2018, the same as in summer 2017.
....
Interesting reading indeed, thank you.

A picture is worth a thousand words...

Pages from LH-APC-2018-charts-Spohr-Svensson.jpg

A second tail appears next to the EW one.
I suppose that mistake will be corrected for next year presentation.


H.A.

A second tail appears next to the EW one.
I suppose that mistake will be corrected for next year presentation.


Seems it didn't take that long.

moderne-flotte_09.jpg
A picture is indeed worth a thousand words.

I don't know if just wiping that B-tail from the row wouldn't have been more direct than this "farewell" take-off.

H.A.

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That picture is already years old and regularly seen on LHG websites, press releases and presentations since several years. It even doesn't have the current LH and EW tail :roll: It's in fact the old version of the picture(s) commonly used today with LH, LX, OS on the left and SN, EW on the right to make the distinction between the 2 segments.

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RoMax wrote:
31 Oct 2018, 19:12
That picture is already years old and regularly seen on LHG websites, press releases and presentations since several years. It even doesn't have the current LH and EW tail :roll:
I think you missed the fact it was a tongue in cheek comment

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Poiu wrote:
31 Oct 2018, 19:21
I think you missed the fact it was a tongue in cheek comment
It's most probably just me, but I don't see the tongue in cheek aspect of his post referring back to a 'joke' he made himself in March by showing a picture today which is several years old.

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sn26567 wrote:
16 Oct 2018, 11:47
sn26567 wrote:
14 Oct 2018, 16:16
Lufthansa is launching a route from Frankfurt to Pune in India. Since it is not a heavily travelled route, it is operated by an A319, which does not have a sufficient range. Therefore, there is an intermediate stop in Baku, Azerbaijan.

The A319 also does not have dedicated business seats; therefore, business travellers get three economy seats for themselves to stretch their legs during the 11 hr 35 min of their flight.

This is deemed the worst Lufthansa flight. Did you say "A five-star airline"?

https://onemileatatime.com/lufthansa-worst-flight/
Fortunately, Lufthansa realised its mistake.

Lufthansa resumes Privatair 737-700 service (with a decent business class) to Pune from Feb 2019:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -feb-2019/
This was not a mistake ... PrivatAir service was not available for whatever reason. LH wanted to cancel the flights but was convinced by a number of very large German companies with large operations in the Pune area to keep the direct service, even if with a normal A319 just to make it possible for the employees of these companies to fly there without having to change planes.
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Lufthansa reportedly wants to limit the number of take-off and landing rights in Dusseldorf and Berlin and to reduce the number of slots in Frankfurt and Munich, in order to avoid delays. The Federal Government to consider the idea.
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Lufthansa to start A319 service from Munich and Frankfurt to Tivat (Montenegro) on 13 and 14 April 2019, respectively.
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As reported by Swiss aviation portal AeroTelegraph, Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr is looking into the Boeing 787 as possible part of the Lufthansa fleet, to operate either from smaller hubs as the A350 or from the same hub but on less frequented routes.
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euroflyer wrote:
01 Nov 2018, 13:48
sn26567 wrote:
16 Oct 2018, 11:47
sn26567 wrote:
14 Oct 2018, 16:16
Lufthansa is launching a route from Frankfurt to Pune in India. Since it is not a heavily travelled route, it is operated by an A319, which does not have a sufficient range. Therefore, there is an intermediate stop in Baku, Azerbaijan.

The A319 also does not have dedicated business seats; therefore, business travellers get three economy seats for themselves to stretch their legs during the 11 hr 35 min of their flight.

This is deemed the worst Lufthansa flight. Did you say "A five-star airline"?

https://onemileatatime.com/lufthansa-worst-flight/
Fortunately, Lufthansa realised its mistake.

Lufthansa resumes Privatair 737-700 service (with a decent business class) to Pune from Feb 2019:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -feb-2019/
This was not a mistake ... PrivatAir service was not available for whatever reason. LH wanted to cancel the flights but was convinced by a number of very large German companies with large operations in the Pune area to keep the direct service, even if with a normal A319 just to make it possible for the employees of these companies to fly there without having to change planes.
Lufthansa to take over services from Frankfurt to Pune until 31 January 2019, flying an A319 via Baku. As PrivatAir (Switzerland) filed for insolvency, the service will not be extended thereafter for the time being.
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ETTSA FILES ANTITRUST COMPLAINT IN BRUSSELS AGAINST LUFTHANSA

Brussels, 19 December 2018. ETTSA, the European Technology and Travel Services Association, and VIR (Verband Internet Reisevertrieb), the German association representing the digital travel industry, have filed a joint complaint with the European Commission’s antitrust authority (DG COMP) for abuse of dominance by Germany’s Lufthansa Group concerning discriminatory and exclusionary practices against independent distributors of airline tickets, including global distribution systems (GDSs) and their travel agency users.

The Lufthansa Group systematically leverages its dominance in the German and other national markets by refusing to supply its cheapest fare classes through GDSs meaning the majority of travel agencies cannot provide them for booking to consumers. It also imposes unjustified surcharges on these independent distributors (travel agents and travel management companies) that penalise consumers and corporate buyers that use these services to search for and purchase flight tickets and manage clients’ itineraries. According to ETTSA, consumers using independent distribution channels have already paid more than one billion euros in surcharges to Lufthansa.

By doing so, the Lufthansa Group intentionally and unfairly restricts competition in both the air ticket distribution as well as airline services markets. Lufthansa Group’s actions damage smaller competitors, who are no longer able to sell their tickets on the true merits of their offer in a neutral marketplace and are prevented to compete on a level playing field with major carriers that often have more established brands and larger advertising budgets.

Lufthansa Group also imposes its own technological distribution solutions on independent distributors at a time when several technologies are competing to define the new distribution standard that will be adopted by market players. Lufthansa Group’s conduct, therefore, also seriously affects innovation in the distribution market.

ETTSA has been discussing Lufthansa Group’s conduct with the Commission, and especially DG Move, for some time now. In its engagement with the Commission, ETTSA has consistently stressed its concerns about the impact of Lufthansa Group’s practices on competition. It is no surprise other major airlines are rumoured to be adopting similar practices. If they do, it could have a profoundly negative impact on the millions of European consumers who prefer to use independent distributors such as travel agencies to research and buy their flight tickets. As a matter of urgency, the Commission should investigate Lufthansa Group’s conduct in line with ETTSA’s complaint.

“If regulators do not intervene, Lufthansa’s practices will lead to reduced competition, a smaller number of airlines, fewer offers to consumers and ultimately higher prices. Consumers using independent distribution channels have already paid more than one billion euros in surcharges to Lufthansa. We had been hoping - for some time now - that the Commission would address these practices via its sector inquiry into the air ticket distribution market. But with the situation deteriorating fast for consumers as a result of Lufthansa’s practices, we have decided to take action and file a complaint to the Commission. The time to act is now.” says Secretary General of ETTSA, Emmanuel Mounier.

VIR Chairman Michael Buller adds: „We criticize Lufthansa’s distribution policy for some time now, also the company’s targeted attempt to offer cheaper fares only through the own distribution systems and interfaces. So far the damage to the distribution system in tourism is tremendous and it’s obvious that the company tries to push competitors out of the market. This cannot be tolerated and the EU must finally act and take countermeasures.”

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About ETTSA
The European Technology and Travel Services Association represents and promotes the interests of travel technology companies in Europe, including global distribution systems (GDSs), online travel platforms and metasearch sites. The association, based in Brussels, encourages and supports full transparency, fair competition and consumer choice in the travel distribution chain.

About VIR
The Verband Internet Reisevertrieb (VIR) represents the German digital travel industry, which accounts for 61% of German leisure travel with at least one overnight stay. It has for members a large number of the key industry, working together in clusters: OTA (online travel agencies), supplier & tour operators, service & travel technology providers as well as start-ups. In total, they add up to more than 90 companies. Within the travel industry VIR promotes new trends and raises awareness for important topics such as innovation or data quality. It monitors market performance and the regulatory environment, engages in the public and political debate and supports young academics as well as new businesses to drive innovation and growth
across the industry.


(end of press release)

Source:
http://www.ettsa.eu/uploads/documents/2 ... elease.pdf

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Lufthansa began codesharing with SunExpress (Turkey), initially covering service from Munich to Ankara and Izmir.
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