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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 17 Oct 2018, 16:55

Staged photo after all? Anyway, the video shows that there were only 8 seats for 24 crew in the crew room. Enough for a whole night?
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sn26567 wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 16:55
Staged photo after all? Anyway, the video shows that there were only 8 seats for 24 crew in the crew room. Enough for a whole night?
As far as I learned, this is not the crew room but the entrance of the closed VIP Lounge at AGP.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Passenger » 17 Oct 2018, 18:26

sean1982 wrote:
15 Oct 2018, 13:29
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15 Oct 2018, 11:48
The scene could be staged, but it is a fact Ryanair does not work with hotels. Their crews don't know anything and are just as stranded as their passengers... So the "picture" is 100% correct.
Not staged at all. Ryanair's crew management in one picture that is.
The proof is there: the photo is staged. Faked. Falsified (as webmaster Luchtzak stated in his first reaction). You just have to watch the full 1,5 minutes to see that those "sleeping" crew members were seated, then standed up, walked to that corner, lied on the floor, got up 15-20 seconds later when the photo was taken, and walked back to their seats. You can even see that the one guy who took the photo, gave that smartphone back to the crew member walking back to his seat.

Apart from that, I agree - it's Ryanair's crew management. It's a scandal that no hotel was offered to the crew and to the passengers indeed. It's low season now in Malaga, plenty of rooms available (even at beachfront). Even when flights to Portugal are grounded.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by sean1982 » 17 Oct 2018, 18:38

Well it’s not fake is it? They still had to spend tbe night in a room with no facilities ... FR doesn’t even try and contest the fact they didn’t provide the accommodation they legally needed to! This tweet makes it even worse!

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Post by 737MAX » 17 Oct 2018, 18:51

People who are correctly treated wouldn’t feel the need to create « fake » pictures to gather attention anyway. Fake or not, who cares... the main problem of Ryanair is indeed perfectly represented in that picture.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 17 Oct 2018, 19:35

Staged ... but spending the entire night in that crewroom until 06:00 am. Then they got access to the lounge, without permission to take food or drinks ....

Enough hotels around Malaga available though ...

I would have staged anything in this case 😜

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Passenger » 18 Oct 2018, 08:49

Court case in Den Bosch (NL) today: 13 Ryanair pilots demand that the court forbits Ryanair to close their base there, because that's done as a reaction to the past strike. Ryanair claims that Eindhoven base will be closed because of raising fuel prices, cheaper tickets and lower demand.

(edited : court case is in Den Bosch, not in Eindhoven)

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18 Oct 2018, 08:49
Court case in Den Bosch (NL) today: 13 Ryanair pilots demand that the court forbits Ryanair to close their base there, because that's done as a reaction to the past strike. Ryanair claims that Eindhoven base will be closed because of raising fuel prices, cheaper tickets and lower demand.
Court verdict apparently for 1st November 2018.

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Post by sn26567 » 18 Oct 2018, 19:02

Expedia launched a counterclaim against Ryanair in a US court that accuses it of trying to “destroy” competition by leveraging a “monopoly” position on some routes.
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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 18 Oct 2018, 19:06

Ryanair to make Berlin Tegel its tenth base in Germany from April 2019, taking over four planes already stationed there by partner Laudamotion. Ryanair with A320s? That would be a revolution!
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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 18 Oct 2018, 19:16

sn26567 wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 16:55
Staged photo after all? Anyway, the video shows that there were only 8 seats for 24 crew in the crew room. Enough for a whole night?
We thank Ryanair for the images ... and the related privacy violation that will have to answer because these images show once again that it has no respect for the rights of employees ....

Thanks Ryanair for having confirmed to the whole world that the crew instead of receiving adequate accommodation as required by the rules, an arrangement that allows you to rest from the hard work that must guarantee flight safety, as in the truth reported were abandoned in a room where you clearly see that to lie down and rest, this it could only happen by lying on the floor among all the others.

Thank you Ryanair for confirming it to everyone without having doubts if the photo disclosed was true ... the photo clearly wanted to be the representation of the inconvenience immediately in the face of an uncomfortable truth for Ryanair: do not care about the welfare of their employees and forecasts of the rules ... there was only one thing to do: "apologize with their employees and thank them" .....
yet another nasty demonstration that Ryanair does not respect the rights ... and does not even apologize. ... bad strategy ....

RYANAIR MUST CHANGE!

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Post by TLspotting » 18 Oct 2018, 22:02

Some strikes are on the way for this end of year...
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Re: Ryanair in 2018

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sn26567 wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 19:06
Ryanair to make Berlin Tegel its tenth base in Germany from April 2019, taking over four planes already stationed there by partner Laudamotion. Ryanair with A320s? That would be a revolution!
Most of the Laudamotion routes out of TXL are operated with B738's from Ryanair.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Charlie Roy » 20 Oct 2018, 00:23

Why didn't the crew just leave the airport?
If someone is trying to prevent them to leave, they call the police and say they are being held hostage, against their will, kidnapped.

Find hotel on phone, go to hotel, pay transport and hotel, claim back from Ryanair later.
That's what Ryanair passengers need to do when flights get cancelled...

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Post by sean1982 » 20 Oct 2018, 08:54

That’s not how crewing/operations work. Legally they can't do that as they wouldn't be covered by insurance in the first place, secondly they wouldn't know what their sign off time and sign on time would be to comply with EASA's FTL scheme.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 20 Oct 2018, 17:33

Apparently, they still don't understand: Ryanair is pressing ahead with plans to move Polish staff onto self-employed contracts, said CMO Kenny Jacobs.
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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 21 Oct 2018, 14:15

A racist Ryanair passenger refuses to sit next to an elderly black woman, the flight attendant removes the woman to a seat in the front of the aircraft but the ranting passenger can remain in his seat.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryan ... ack-woman/

He should have been thrown off!

Ryanair's only comment: We are aware of this video and have reported this matter to Essex Police. As this is now a police matter, we cannot comment further.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Passenger » 21 Oct 2018, 15:04

Charlie Roy wrote:
20 Oct 2018, 00:23
Find hotel on phone, go to hotel, pay transport and hotel, claim back from Ryanair later.
That's what Ryanair passengers need to do when flights get cancelled...
Most Ryanair passengers don't do this because they estimate their chances for a refund almost zero. Specially when "extraordinary cicrumstances" apply - adverse weather, forcing the closure of an airport. Though such event only means that airlines don't have to pay the indemnity, some airlines also use it to waive costs they should refund according to EU jurisprudence.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 21 Oct 2018, 15:34

sean1982 wrote:
20 Oct 2018, 08:54
That’s not how crewing/operations work. Legally they can't do that as they wouldn't be covered by insurance in the first place, secondly they wouldn't know what their sign off time and sign on time would be to comply with EASA's FTL scheme.
It’s fairly simple: treat your staff with respect. Ask Richard Branson!

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by sean1982 » 21 Oct 2018, 17:50

Did I contest that? I wasnt speaking in Ryanair’s defense but merely explaining Why the crew cant just arrange everything themselves

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