According to Antwerp newspaper Gazet van Antwerpen VLM will stop all services out of Antwerp except London and Zurich. Is it so bad?
https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20180806_0365 ... -antwerpen
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Re: VLM (SHS Antwerp Aviation) news 2018
Yes indeed... As from August 17 it is going to be for Maribor to be stopped...Dreamliner wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 17:37 According to Antwerp newspaper Gazet van Antwerpen VLM will stop all services out of Antwerp except London and Zurich. Is it so bad?
https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20180806_0365 ... -antwerpen
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Not really a surprise, is it? Still surprised though that zurich was not on that list. My guess in 1 year the company will be gone. Well at least, they tried.
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VLM abandons ALL routes, except LCY and ZRH. It will also develop charter and ACMI activities, putting permanently one F-50 with crew at the disposal of The Aviation Factory.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/vlm- ... ctivities/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/vlm- ... ctivities/
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I let them 6 months.
They already got OOVLN, don't they?
But if the airline continues like that, they will do like SSJs, so no agreement, and then no ATR. VLM is convicted.
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ATV : "De verwachte ingebruikname van de nieuwe vliegtuigen is voorzien in de tweede helft van 2019.”
New planes for 2nd half of 2019...
They will stop their operations before recepting new airplanes, for sure.
New planes for 2nd half of 2019...
They will stop their operations before recepting new airplanes, for sure.
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Ostend airport still stays a TUI only airport and perhaps ANR will be too very soon.
You don't reduce to grow but expand to grow.
Parhaps its time to change their name now.
You don't reduce to grow but expand to grow.
Parhaps its time to change their name now.
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The routes are still bookable on their website at the time of writing.
This is a shame!!!
This is a shame!!!
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not possible anymore .. give them some credit .. not everyone is as successful as KF or VLM brussels
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The "street-to-plane" time at ANR is much shorter than at BRU. It's almost faster to take a car from BRU to ANR and board the flight at ANR than it's to board at BRU...
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https://www.facebook.com/vlmairlines/posts/957354124444599 wrote: VLM Airlines Last flights:
• Antwerp-Birmingham: 10AUG
• Munich-Maribor: 17AUG
• Antwerp-Aberdeen: 14SEP
• Antwerp-Munich: 14SEP
• Antwerp-Cologne-Rostock: 16SEP
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Belgians.... "we are proud to be losers". Much more attention in the media (newpapers, extensive radio coverage & interviews, maybe even on TV??) for the ending of these routes, than when VLM finally succeeded to restart operations and started these routes!
Of course VLM is also to blame for this publicity mess: hardly any substantial promotion when starting the new routes and now creating the conditions for politicians and media to blow everything out of proportion. Well done VLM management!! Btw. VLM maybe can clean up its website....
I hope that real talent @carllegein can contribute substantially to the survival of VLM!
Of course VLM is also to blame for this publicity mess: hardly any substantial promotion when starting the new routes and now creating the conditions for politicians and media to blow everything out of proportion. Well done VLM management!! Btw. VLM maybe can clean up its website....
I hope that real talent @carllegein can contribute substantially to the survival of VLM!
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As I mentioned at the time of writing.
A decent company put the bookings on hold and then make a statement.
Now its as if they need the money from the bookings to keep them going...
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Lucky me. Today on the flight to Maribor, coming back on friday. Just before they cancel the route
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Let us know about the load factors on each leg of your trip. That could explain the decision.sonic boom wrote: ↑08 Aug 2018, 07:10 Lucky me. Today on the flight to Maribor, coming back on friday. Just before they cancel the route
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Reasons for those cancellations are probably multiple:sn26567 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 17:56 VLM abandons ALL routes, except LCY and ZRH. It will also develop charter and ACMI activities, putting permanently one F-50 with crew at the disposal of The Aviation Factory.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/vlm- ... ctivities/
- there was too little time between announcement and first flight:
- there is simply no market for those routings (Antwerp-Maribor?!);
- launch was done just before annual holiday season;
- perhaps some doubt about relability of the airline (cfr Harm Prins).
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- lack of marketingPassenger wrote: ↑08 Aug 2018, 11:13Reasons for those cancellations are probably multiple:sn26567 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 17:56 VLM abandons ALL routes, except LCY and ZRH. It will also develop charter and ACMI activities, putting permanently one F-50 with crew at the disposal of The Aviation Factory.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/vlm- ... ctivities/
- there was too little time between announcement and first flight:
- there is simply no market for those routings (Antwerp-Maribor?!);
- launch was done just before annual holiday season;
- perhaps some doubt about relability of the airline (cfr Harm Prins).
- poor visibility (GDS?)
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André
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Thx DIBO, Passenger, Andre, finally some reactions on the real issue: the poor management capability of VLM.
No surprises here, if you announce flights at the same time as when you start flying them, if your website was not working for a long time, if you make hardly any promotion or advertising, if you select destinations (Maribor, Rostock?) with no cultural or economic connections with ANR, if your changingbyour CEO every x months, if you are not reachable by phone (try to find a number of VLM, not a call centre!), if you communicate with the press through a press release (not even face-to-face), if you fly relatively old prop aircraft and then if you finally almost never fly on time to MUC or ZRH (delays of 1 to 2 hrs for the evening flights is standard, flying on time is exceptional), then you should not be surprised. This has NOTHING to do with Antwerp Airport, on the contrary, it is the 2nd time in 3 years that VLM succeeds in creating a negative image of the airport, which, of course in an election year, is a nice gift for SP’A and Groen!...
No surprises here, if you announce flights at the same time as when you start flying them, if your website was not working for a long time, if you make hardly any promotion or advertising, if you select destinations (Maribor, Rostock?) with no cultural or economic connections with ANR, if your changingbyour CEO every x months, if you are not reachable by phone (try to find a number of VLM, not a call centre!), if you communicate with the press through a press release (not even face-to-face), if you fly relatively old prop aircraft and then if you finally almost never fly on time to MUC or ZRH (delays of 1 to 2 hrs for the evening flights is standard, flying on time is exceptional), then you should not be surprised. This has NOTHING to do with Antwerp Airport, on the contrary, it is the 2nd time in 3 years that VLM succeeds in creating a negative image of the airport, which, of course in an election year, is a nice gift for SP’A and Groen!...