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Re: 2018 Liège Airport (LGG/EBLG) latest news

Post by KriVa » 09 Jul 2018, 16:16

As to your first paragraph: Correct, you didn't claim that, I edited my post to show a more correct statement.

To the second:
Except it's not "only relevant for statistics". Just because no passengers were inconvenienced, doesn't mean there can't be more to this.
If they were to consistently file flight plans for EBLG with EHAM as alternate, and "divert" to EHAM systematically, they are basically gaming the system and circumventing the slot restrictions put in place at EHAM.
Is it something we, as a public forum, should be worried about? Of course not, but as an avgeek with quite a lot of interest (both professionally and as a hobby) in the ATM system, getting to the bottom of this sounds like fun.
Which is why, again, it would be interesting to know whether or not the flight actually diverted (and has done so on multiple occasions), or whether it's just a little glitch in the logic used by FR24.
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Post by Acid-drop » 09 Jul 2018, 16:50

If they were to consistently file flight plans for EBLG with EHAM as alternate, and "divert" to EHAM systematically, they are basically gaming the system and circumventing the slot restrictions put in place at EHAM.
My assumption is the opposite : they always try AMS, and when it fails, LGG is always open and ready.
But since there could be cargo moving between flights, it makes sense to group multiple flights the same day
Today is clearly a busy ABC day in LGG
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Post by KriVa » 09 Jul 2018, 17:21

They would know beforehand whether or not they have a slot at AMS, so filing for AMS and diverting to LGG is not really logical. However, filing for LGG and “diverting” to AMS would work, since I don’t think they’re allowed to refuse a diversion except for very good reasons.
However, I don’t think this is actually the case, since this practice would very much be frowned upon.
I still think it’s a “glitch” in FR24, simply because of the way their systems work.
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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 09 Jul 2018, 18:50

Today RU102 coming from KDFW with destination EBLG according to FR24, actually landed at EHAM and is tagged by FR24 as "Diverted AMS".

I agree with Kriva that this seems to be a glitch. FR24 may not have had the correct info hence go back to mom and defaults to the usual/historical destination. At least in some cases.

A quick check shows 29 RU102 flights since 01JAN18.
According to FR24, 10 had destination EHAM and all landed there. 19 flights are tagged as destination LGG but all have "diverted AMS".

Randomly I checked RU451, "SVO-LGG", and 12 also "diverted" to AMS since the beginning of this year.

Maybe FR24 is not always at fault.
RU602 KDFW-EDDF : 3 "diverted AMS", all 2 flights in the last two weeks
RU302 KORD-EDDF : 2 "diverted AMS", all 3 flights in the last two weeks

Is the situation easing at Amsterdam lately?

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Re: 2018 Liège Airport (LGG/EBLG) latest news

Post by flightlover » 09 Jul 2018, 21:08

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
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Is the situation easing at Amsterdam lately?

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Due to some cancelled flights earlier this year by wx and strikes there are more slots available for cargo flights at AMS. And don't forget about the slight issue of overflight rights for Russian airspace that could have hurt KLM if ABC wasn't allowed more slots at AMS.

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Post by sn26567 » 09 Jul 2018, 22:24

In the annual report of SOWAER (the Walloon Airports Company), I read that since 2002 Liege Airport has purchased 1774 buildings and insulated 8642 other ones. There were only 2% complaints on these transactions.

An example to follow by Brussels?
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Post by Acid-drop » 15 Jul 2018, 18:30

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Post by SR20 » 18 Jul 2018, 14:36

Volga-Dnepr Group, CargoLogicAir sign MoU with Liege Airport

http://www.logupdateafrica.com/volgadne ... t-aviation

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Post by Acid-drop » 18 Jul 2018, 15:13

That's some massive news, AirBridgeCargo is under the Volga-Dnepr embrella, we can already imagine 30 flights per week !

748 galore :-)
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Post by Acid-drop » 18 Jul 2018, 15:18

This other news, coupled with this one, makes it even more impressive
"Volga-Dnepr Group and sister UK company CargoLogicHoldings today announced an order for five B747-8Fs, as well as a letter of intent for a staggering 29 B777 freighters for its UK airline, Cargologicair."
https://good-planes.com/volga-dnepr-stu ... ers/42470/
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Post by sn26567 » 18 Jul 2018, 17:17

SR20 wrote:
18 Jul 2018, 14:36
Volga-Dnepr Group, CargoLogicAir sign MoU with Liege Airport

http://www.logupdateafrica.com/volgadne ... t-aviation
Here is the official announcement, published simultaneously by Liege Airport and Volga-Dnepr:

http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/volga ... e-airport/
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Post by sn26567 » 18 Jul 2018, 17:19

Acid-drop wrote:
18 Jul 2018, 15:18
This other news, coupled with this one, makes it even more impressive
"Volga-Dnepr Group and sister UK company CargoLogicHoldings today announced an order for five B747-8Fs, as well as a letter of intent for a staggering 29 B777 freighters for its UK airline, Cargologicair."
https://good-planes.com/volga-dnepr-stu ... ers/42470/
And this is the official announcement from Boeing that we published yesterday:

http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/volga ... n-service/
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Post by Acid-drop » 22 Jul 2018, 16:47

a new three-times-weekly 747-400 air cargo service operated by Uni-top Airlines and with capacity for 200 tonnes of cargo is to link Wuhan Tianhe International Airport with Liege in Belgium
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Post by Acid-drop » 25 Jul 2018, 18:33

Acid-drop wrote:
22 Jul 2018, 16:47
a new three-times-weekly 747-400 air cargo service operated by Uni-top Airlines and with capacity for 200 tonnes of cargo is to link Wuhan Tianhe International Airport with Liege in Belgium
Routing seems to be LGG-KRW-WUH using ER-BAJ
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Post by Boeing767copilot » 18 Aug 2018, 14:28

Announcing the arrival of the second Boeing 747 Freighter which has been leased from Air Atlanta Icelandic and will fly from Nairobi to London Stansted and Liege with +100 tons of Perishables.
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Post by Acid-drop » 24 Aug 2018, 20:09

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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 24 Aug 2018, 20:48

Acid-drop wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 18:33
Acid-drop wrote:
22 Jul 2018, 16:47
a new three-times-weekly 747-400 air cargo service operated by Uni-top Airlines and with capacity for 200 tonnes of cargo is to link Wuhan Tianhe International Airport with Liege in Belgium
Routing seems to be LGG-KRW-WUH using ER-BAJ
OK, that makes sense then : 100 t to KRW and another 100 t to Wuhan.
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Post by Passenger » 30 Aug 2018, 11:42

The Belgian State Gazette today publishes a few decisions regarding ground handling ops:

FR:
http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi/ar ... ummary#top

NL:
http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi/ar ... 204392#top

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Post by Acid-drop » 01 Sep 2018, 12:39

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Re: 2018 Liège Airport (LGG/EBLG) latest news

Post by SR20 » 07 Sep 2018, 18:08

Chinese carrier Uni-top adds Liege freighter service.

https://www.aircargonews.net/news/airli ... rvice.html

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