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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by ezis_bis » 16 Dec 2018, 12:01

b720 wrote:
16 Dec 2018, 10:01
It is much cheaper than bottled water.
I meant cheap like style
I find a design glass bottle with fruits and petals floating in it much more stylish and personal than a plastic bottle.
But OK, we're not going to agree on this I feel

And I don't really think people will change lounges because of the water

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Ansett » 16 Dec 2018, 22:23

If you compare lounges in Europe with those in the Middle-East and Asia, it is like day and night. Even some lounges of Asian carriers in Europe are up to par with the lounges in Asia. Last year, I flew CX from CDG to HKG and used the CX lounge at CGD. Five stars compared to any lounge of a European airline. Let alone the lounges at HKG. I don't understand LH became a 5* airline when you see the LH Business class lounges at FRA and MUC.
European airline lounges in Europe are a joke.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b720 » 16 Dec 2018, 23:30

ezis_bis wrote:
16 Dec 2018, 12:01
b720 wrote:
16 Dec 2018, 10:01
It is much cheaper than bottled water.
I meant cheap like style
I find a design glass bottle with fruits and petals floating in it much more stylish and personal than a plastic bottle.
But OK, we're not going to agree on this I feel

And I don't really think people will change lounges because of the water
I agree, it is not cheap in style. But not everyone likes that kind of water. They can offer whatever they like, but they can not eliminate bottled water. Some people only drink sparking water for instance.. we are not talking about champagne versus cava. It is simple and basic water.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Poiu » 17 Dec 2018, 09:59

b720 wrote:
16 Dec 2018, 23:30
I agree, it is not cheap in style. But not everyone likes that kind of water. They can offer whatever they like, but they can not eliminate bottled water. Some people only drink sparking water for instance.. we are not talking about champagne versus cava. It is simple and basic water.
Water fountains (sparkling, still, cold, room temperature) are the way to go.
Unfortunately everything which is bottled gets stolen.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by brabel » 17 Dec 2018, 11:56

Tap water is very drinkable in Belgium and it’s better for the environment.
I think it’s better What they have now, compared to bottled water.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by nordikcam » 17 Dec 2018, 14:28

brabel wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 11:56
Tap water is very drinkable in Belgium and it’s better for the environment.
I think it’s better What they have now, compared to bottled water.
Absolutely. It's still a problem that is not a problem!

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b720 » 17 Dec 2018, 14:47

It is a premium lounge! People using that lounge pay good money to fly SN and partners. And to imply that people steal bottled water? Rubbish! It is only to save money.
BTW more ecological to take the train..

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by CTBke » 17 Dec 2018, 14:51

b720 wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 14:47
It is a premium lounge! People using that lounge pay good money to fly SN and partners. And to imply that people steal bottled water? Rubbish! It is only to save money.
BTW more ecological to take the train..
you would be surprised how much bottles and other canned drinks disappear in their bags ..
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by lumumba » 17 Dec 2018, 16:50

CTBke wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 14:51
b720 wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 14:47
It is a premium lounge! People using that lounge pay good money to fly SN and partners. And to imply that people steal bottled water? Rubbish! It is only to save money.
BTW more ecological to take the train..
you would be surprised how much bottles and other canned drinks disappear in their bags ..
You can do like Lufthansa they put big glas bottles!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b720 » 17 Dec 2018, 20:25

lumumba wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 16:50
CTBke wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 14:51
b720 wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 14:47
It is a premium lounge! People using that lounge pay good money to fly SN and partners. And to imply that people steal bottled water? Rubbish! It is only to save money.
BTW more ecological to take the train..
you would be surprised how much bottles and other canned drinks disappear in their bags ..
You can do like Lufthansa they put big glas bottles!
That s an option, and it is ecological.. they can keep their flavoured tap water.. but they can not eliminate bottled water, Specially that one can t bring their own past security.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b.lufthansa » 18 Dec 2018, 12:12

convair wrote:
15 Dec 2018, 14:11
b.lufthansa wrote:
15 Dec 2018, 02:17
I am surprised nobody noticed the engine flame-out on the A330, after restarting the engine, the second engine failed during approach BRU. Suspecting fuel contamination in Kinshasa Airport.

IMO this could have gone a lot worse!

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... r-failure/
You're saying "nobody noticed" while giving yourself a link to an article on this site's home page!? :?

Anyway, if the fuel contamination is confirmed, it should be cause for big concern!

Btw, the incident was reported in the "Anomalies..." topic as well.
You can keep on discussing about tap water or bottled water, but OO-SFU is still on the ground after the engine failure(s) 4 days ago.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by lumumba » 18 Dec 2018, 12:24

b.lufthansa wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 12:12
convair wrote:
15 Dec 2018, 14:11
b.lufthansa wrote:
15 Dec 2018, 02:17
I am surprised nobody noticed the engine flame-out on the A330, after restarting the engine, the second engine failed during approach BRU. Suspecting fuel contamination in Kinshasa Airport.

IMO this could have gone a lot worse!

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... r-failure/
You're saying "nobody noticed" while giving yourself a link to an article on this site's home page!? :?

Anyway, if the fuel contamination is confirmed, it should be cause for big concern!

Btw, the incident was reported in the "Anomalies..." topic as well.
You can keep on discussing about tap water or bottled water, but OO-SFU is still on the ground after the engine failure(s) 4 days ago.
I'm really curious :shock:
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b.lufthansa » 18 Dec 2018, 12:27

lumumba wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 12:24
b.lufthansa wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 12:12
convair wrote:
15 Dec 2018, 14:11


You're saying "nobody noticed" while giving yourself a link to an article on this site's home page!? :?

Anyway, if the fuel contamination is confirmed, it should be cause for big concern!

Btw, the incident was reported in the "Anomalies..." topic as well.
You can keep on discussing about tap water or bottled water, but OO-SFU is still on the ground after the engine failure(s) 4 days ago.
I'm really curious :shock:
Correction: it has been 8 days (10 December)

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by brabel » 18 Dec 2018, 20:35

Did SN cancel the start of the Wroclaw route?
Can't seem to find a plane on their booking engine...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Ansett » 18 Dec 2018, 21:11

To come back to the bottled water at the SN Lounge at BRU. I agree with those who say that if it is supposed to be a premium lounge, you offer premium service, i.e. (glass) bottled water to take environmental concerns into account, but then, if the environment is a real concern, you do not fly or fly as little as possible. Possibly, you travel as little as possible, also by train or car, since both are polluters, too. Then some will say that air travel is important because it creates many jobs. So, we are trapped in an inextricable situation.
Personal conclusion : a premium lounge has to remain a premium lounge ; however, referring to my earlier post, European airlines lounges in Europe have still to go from the level of lounge to the one of premium lounge. If they don't, they can as well serve tap water as KLM does at its lounges in Schiphol.
I am happy to pay that one euro on a "uncontrolled" basis for a bottle of water at BRU right after security.
One of the very few positive initiatives of BRU in favour of its pax. Apparently, not too much of that water is "stolen". Otherwise, it would have been taken away already.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Ansett » 18 Dec 2018, 21:14

A naive question perhaps, since I have not followed the situation : why is OO-SFU still not flying ? OK, engine problem for EIGHT days ? What's the reason ? (I know it's engine failure, according to members' posts, but why is the problem still not solved after eight days ?)

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by lumumba » 18 Dec 2018, 21:25

Ansett wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 21:14
A naive question perhaps, since I have not followed the situation : why is OO-SFU still not flying ? OK, engine problem for EIGHT days ? What's the reason ? (I know it's engine failure, according to members' posts, but why is the problem still not solved after eight days ?)
Anyway, if the fuel contamination is confirmed, it should be cause for big concern!

It happend probably in FIH!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Poiu » 19 Dec 2018, 00:50

Ansett wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 21:14
A naive question perhaps, since I have not followed the situation : why is OO-SFU still not flying ? OK, engine problem for EIGHT days ? What's the reason ? (I know it's engine failure, according to members' posts, but why is the problem still not solved after eight days ?)
If it’s fuel contamination there is a lot of cleaning to do: tanks, pumps, filters, tubes, pipes...
According to Airbus a flame out is often caused by contaminated fuel and a landing at the nearest suitable airport should be considered.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Ansett » 19 Dec 2018, 13:49

Thanks for your answers and clarifications.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by TLspotting » 19 Dec 2018, 14:06

SNB at LJU, what's happening?
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