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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by DeltaWiskey » 18 Mar 2018, 20:59

convair wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 18:37
I didn't catch that €15mlo loss for Q4. Where is it mentioned?
The Q3 YTD figure is +30mio, full year result is +15mio, hence the loss for Q4.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b.lufthansa » 18 Mar 2018, 21:48

Brussels Airlines can certainly do something at their poor on-time performance!

Their ASK is rather low compared to other LH group carriers. A working point!

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by lumumba » 18 Mar 2018, 21:56

Is there already news about the flight to Luanda will it continue true Brazzaville has a new destination?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 18 Mar 2018, 23:33

Regarding SN l/h, will JFK, IAD, YYZ and BOM stay ?!

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 19 Mar 2018, 00:16

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 23:33
Regarding SN l/h, will JFK, IAD, YYZ and BOM stay ?!
Yes, at least for this summer season.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by convair » 19 Mar 2018, 12:39

sn26567 wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 00:16
brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 23:33
Regarding SN l/h, will JFK, IAD, YYZ and BOM stay ?!
Yes, at least for this summer season.
And the IAD flight restarted today (a week early?!). BOM, however, is canceled.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by nordikcam » 19 Mar 2018, 12:57

convair wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 12:39
sn26567 wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 00:16
brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 23:33
Regarding SN l/h, will JFK, IAD, YYZ and BOM stay ?!
Yes, at least for this summer season.
And the IAD flight restarted today (a week early?!). BOM, however, is canceled.
But the BOM flight is scheduled tomorrow a tuesday !

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by lumumba » 19 Mar 2018, 14:59

I heard that the Luanda flights will go true Kinshasa again Thursdays and Sundays no flights anymore Tuesdays.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by viennafly » 19 Mar 2018, 15:59

Seems like the registrations for the new A333s are out.... OO-SFB-SFH

https://sites.google.com/site/lhgroupfleet/brussels

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Ansett » 19 Mar 2018, 17:29

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 23:33
Regarding SN l/h, will JFK, IAD, YYZ and BOM stay ?!
the former Belgian shareholders take the blame, imho, for not having wanted to add additional money on the table or were not prepared to let LH (Mayerhuber) buy all of SN right at the beginning, because (according to my interpretation), they expected a better return on investment, if they waited a few years, since they were convinced LH would turn SN fairly quickly into a very profitable airline like with LX, and consequently they did not want to sell right away, but their hopes for a higher return did not concretize. On the contrary.

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17 Mar 2018, 21:04
(1) CS said he wants to develop the AFI market, and Slide N°25 puts it at +13% for P2P.
(2) SN is the Centre of Excellence for Long Haul.
(3) There will be no additional aircraft at BRU.

If CS wants to develop the AFI market (point 1) without additional aircraft in BRU (point 3), for me it means that all other SN long-haul flights from BRU will go (including BOM). The flights to Africa from North America will be fed by UA and AC. Otherwise, I don't see how CS can develop AFI without additional aircraft.
CS wants us to fly via FRA or MUC. I will take the Thalys to Schiphol or the TGV to Roissy.

As to the Centre of Excellence for Long Haul in Brussels, like Saint-Thomas, I will believe it when I see it.
And if it comes to Brussels, I bet it will be run by Germans.

CS must be laughing all the way to the bank because of "our" (you know who I mean) naivity (or is it stupidity).

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Inquirer » 19 Mar 2018, 18:56

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lufth ... -airlines/
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 93497.html

The new and all important function of CFO will reportedly be filled by Dieter Vranckx, until now the highest ranking Belgian within the Lufthansa organigram as VP Asia-Pacific and member of the SN Airholding board.

Not only will he become CFO, he'll also be responsible (amongst others) for HR, lobbying and IT and will become 'deputy CEO' and thus likely act as the face of the company within Belgium.

Seems like the official new CEO will merely be responsible for the commercial aspects of the company as before, next to linking back to Lufthansa of course, because the operational part is faling under the responsability of another Belgian, COO Thibault Demoulin.

That way, the German's 'just' take full responability for bringing in the passengers and thus the revenues: not a bad idea if you think you can do better on the revenues side. We'll see if and how they succeed (or not) in growing revenues and profits over the next few years, as they already said change would be slow.

Also the lobbying aspect to the new set of responsabilities for the new CFO is interesting: I suppose its proof that in Germany they are starting to understand that the all important African market heavily relies on the generous Belgian bilaterals as well as on personal contacts overthere, and are unfortunately also quite easily revoked or cut back if not handeled with the right knowledge and style, both on the African side, but also in Belgium, as our PM has already warned Mr Spohr.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by travellover » 19 Mar 2018, 19:29

No more birds. The real number of active A330 flying for SN depends also of the end of the oldest A330-300 leasing contracts and when the entering "new" A330 birds come into service, isn't it ?
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Ansett » 19 Mar 2018, 19:40

Inquirer wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 18:56
We'll see if and how they succeed (or not) in growing revenues and profits over the next few years, as they already said change would be slow.
If the change will be slow, the increase in profits will also be slow. If LH really wanted SN to make larger profits, they would not get SN second hand planes (to replace old planes). They would give them brand new planes as they did for LX. The brand new planes burn less fuel and require less maintenance. If SN keeps on getting second hand planes, indeed the change to more profitability will be slow. But that might be LH's hidden agenda.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by DeltaWiskey » 19 Mar 2018, 21:16

viennafly wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 15:59
Seems like the registrations for the new A333s are out.... OO-SFB-SFH

https://sites.google.com/site/lhgroupfleet/brussels

Cheers!
It seems to be an outdated version of the refleet, SN won't take 978 and 983 any longer. I don't know exactly which aircraft Brussels Airlines will take instead, but I believe one of them is 1010.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 19 Mar 2018, 23:58

Inquirer wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 18:56
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lufth ... -airlines/
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 93497.html

The new and all important function of CFO will reportedly be filled by Dieter Vranckx, until now the highest ranking Belgian within the Lufthansa organigram as VP Asia-Pacific and member of the SN Airholding board.
Interesting to note that he started at Sabena (already) and that he participated in the setup of SN Brussels Airlines before joining the Lufthansa Group in 2001.

Shall he be considered as a Lufthansa man, or will his roots give him some sense of "belgitude" in the defence of the Belgian interests?
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Ansett » 20 Mar 2018, 03:12

sn26567 wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 23:58
Shall he be considered as a Lufthansa man, or will his roots give him some sense of "belgitude" in the defence of the Belgian interests?
Sorry for this harsh reaction, but he is a LH guy now ; he's paid to defend LH's interests which do not necessarily go hand in hand with SN's interests.

Let's stop dreaming, the dream is a nightmare anyway.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by convair » 21 Mar 2018, 01:03

convair wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 12:39
And the IAD flight restarted today (a week early?!).
In fact, a week early for BRU, a week late for IAD: USA/Canada moved to summer time on March 11; we'll move on March 25.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by RoMax » 21 Mar 2018, 04:07

convair wrote:
21 Mar 2018, 01:03
In fact, a week early for BRU, a week late for IAD: USA/Canada moved to summer time on March 11; we'll move on March 25.
These are IATA seasons, they are 'by accident' (not really but ok :p ) related to the summer/winter time difference in Europe, but the IATA seasons are used globally for scheduling, slot allocation,... It doesn't always matter a lot, but for example for slot controlled airports the IATA guidelines are followed and these describe the exact dates and are general (at least for the Northern hemisphere)
SN decided to put 4 pre-summer flights in the timetable (which are officially in the IATA winter season) to extend the seasonal operation in a period where demand is already going up quite well vs. the real low winter season.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by airbuske » 21 Mar 2018, 09:49

All flights to Barcelona will be operated by VLM Airlines A320 OO-TCT from the 25th of march till the 28th of March due aircraft shortage.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by CTBke » 21 Mar 2018, 11:54

airbuske wrote:
21 Mar 2018, 09:49
It seems that Brussels Airlines will wetlease a A320 ( reg. OO-TCT) from VLM Airlines for the summer season.
But no more info available at this moment.
what's the source ?
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