Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by KriVa » 28 Aug 2018, 12:29

If I was writing the article, I would indeed use “crash” as well, since it’s a broader term.
However, one of the definitions of “neerstorten” is “plotseling onbedoeld op de aarde neerkomen”, which does kind of fit what happened here, since the aircraft is on its belly, the landing gear seems to be gone, and at the very least the engine suffered a major propstrike.
I can’t really think of a reason why “neerstorten” would not be an apt term in Dutch, particularly when looking at the results of this crash.
All that aside, the runway has now been cleared and ANR is open again.
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Post by Didymus » 28 Aug 2018, 13:02

?

It's a fixed gear aircraft...

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Post by luchtzak » 28 Aug 2018, 15:13

Some extra information on the accident, statement by BAFA

In the afternoon, BAFA issued a press release, confirming the student airline pilot performing a solo training flight focusing on touch & go's. The student was already familiar with this kind of training. During the flight, however, the pilot noticed a burning smell in the aircraft. Due to the smell in the cockpit, the pilot decided to carry out an emergency landing. After the accident, it became clear that the burning smell came from a fire in a field just adjacent to the location where the pilot performed the touch & go's. 

Certain factors have forced the aircraft ending up next to the runway. The pilot involved only got slightly injured.

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Post by domtom » 28 Aug 2018, 21:51

Anyone know why tonight's Turkish flight was served by a 777-300? Thanks

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Post by luchtzak » 28 Aug 2018, 22:40

domtom wrote:
28 Aug 2018, 21:51
Anyone know why tonight's Turkish flight was served by a 777-300? Thanks
End of the holidays, requiring extra capacity.

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Post by domtom » 30 Aug 2018, 21:36

And tonight another Turkish A330. Assume same reason? Is Turkish the only one needing to upgauge planes to meet capacity?

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Post by luchtzak » 30 Aug 2018, 21:37

domtom wrote:
30 Aug 2018, 21:36
And tonight another Turkish A330. Assume same reason? Is Turkish the only one needing to upgauge planes to meet capacity?
I remember Royal Air Maroc with Boeing 747

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Post by nicopapa » 31 Aug 2018, 18:02

Unusual go-around today 31/8 at BRU:
TK3926 was on approach on the 01, then aborted the approach (was still over Wezembeek), headed west at 3700 ft till about Gent, made a 270° right turn, followed by a 90° left turn from where it started an approach on the 07L while the 01 was still active for landing (it still is at this time). Strangely enough, the flight history is not available anymore on FR24 (while I could follow the approach live on it) but it still shows on flightaware.

The fact that it landed on the 07L, the longest runway, might be an indication of a technical issue. What do you think or know about it?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/THY3926

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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 31 Aug 2018, 20:34

nicopapa wrote:
31 Aug 2018, 18:02
Unusual go-around today 31/8 at BRU:
TK3926 was on approach on the 01, then aborted the approach (was still over Wezembeek), headed west at 3700 ft till about Gent, made a 270° right turn, followed by a 90° left turn from where it started an approach on the 07L while the 01 was still active for landing (it still is at this time). Strangely enough, the flight history is not available anymore on FR24 (while I could follow the approach live on it) but it still shows on flightaware.

The fact that it landed on the 07L, the longest runway, might be an indication of a technical issue. What do you think or know about it?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/THY3926
Strange indeed, starting with the fact that TK flights to BRU (and AMS, remember the 1951 that made a slam dunk on approach) carry a flight number with a 19xx format.
Also, their inbounds have an uneven number. This one has an even number.

TK3926 is unknown to Flightstats.com as well.
The plot thickens ...

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Atco EBBR » 01 Sep 2018, 00:31

Flap issue... Stuck at flaps 1 if I recall correctly.

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Post by domtom » 01 Sep 2018, 07:53

This morning, red devils a320 and rackham A320 were following each other en route to CDG. 15 mins apart, tops. Is this normal schedul? Or just meeting abnormal demand? Would've thought those flights are near empty, at least on the outbound.

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Post by luchtzak » 01 Sep 2018, 08:44

domtom wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 07:53
This morning, red devils a320 and rackham A320 were following each other en route to CDG. 15 mins apart, tops. Is this normal schedul? Or just meeting abnormal demand? Would've thought those flights are near empty, at least on the outbound.
That's the normal schedule, and certainly not an anomaly.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sn3631
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sn3633

Those flights are necessary to bring in and out the passengers connecting through to the African network. Note: there is a third flight between both hubs: an ASL Airlines France Boeing 737, also operating on behalf of Brussels Airlines:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sn3628


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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Stij » 11 Sep 2018, 11:39

SN515 BRU-IAD has made a U-turn above Wales...
https://www.flightradar24.com/BEL515/1dd347db
Squawk 7700... Emergency?
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Passenger » 11 Sep 2018, 12:10

Stij wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 11:39
SN515 BRU-IAD has made a U-turn above Wales...
https://www.flightradar24.com/BEL515/1dd347db
Squawk 7700... Emergency?
Return from Wales at FL220 suggests it's a technical issue, no medical.

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Passenger wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 12:10
Stij wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 11:39
SN515 BRU-IAD has made a U-turn above Wales...
https://www.flightradar24.com/BEL515/1dd347db
Squawk 7700... Emergency?
Return from Wales at FL220 suggests it's a technical issue, no medical.
Technical issue with one of the computer systems, passengers will be rebooked on the next available flight.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -brussels/

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Post by nordikcam » 17 Sep 2018, 10:01

SN flight to IAD yesterday cancelled, SN flight to BOM today cancelled, TUIfly Belgium to CANCUN yesterday cancelled...TUIfly to CURACAO delayed ( more than 4 hours ) to name only those that I see ... we can not say that the Belgian long haul is very very powerful ... Absolutely not credible and it's sad and regrettable !

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Post by CTBke » 17 Sep 2018, 11:17

nordikcam wrote:
17 Sep 2018, 10:01
SN flight to IAD yesterday cancelled, SN flight to BOM today cancelled, TUIfly Belgium to CANCUN yesterday cancelled...TUIfly to CURACAO delayed ( more than 4 hours ) to name only those that I see ... we can not say that the Belgian long haul is very very powerful ... Absolutely not credible and it's sad and regrettable !
I think SN urgently needs to replace those old birds... unless the cancelled IAD yesterday and BOM today was because of a newer one
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by nordikcam » 17 Sep 2018, 18:41

CTBke wrote:
17 Sep 2018, 11:17
nordikcam wrote:
17 Sep 2018, 10:01
SN flight to IAD yesterday cancelled, SN flight to BOM today cancelled, TUIfly Belgium to CANCUN yesterday cancelled...TUIfly to CURACAO delayed ( more than 4 hours ) to name only those that I see ... we can not say that the Belgian long haul is very very powerful ... Absolutely not credible and it's sad and regrettable !
I think SN urgently needs to replace those old birds... unless the cancelled IAD yesterday and BOM today was because of a newer one
And tomorrow...@ the Cannes Festival of cancellations ...the winner is : MONROVIA ! And wednesday...it will be...??

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Post by JVSpotter » 23 Sep 2018, 16:50

MD11 D-ALCK (LAX-FRA) diverted to BRU, ATA 1649

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