Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 18 Aug 2018, 09:37

The flight deck clearly overreacted!
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 18 Aug 2018, 09:56

Acid-drop wrote:
17 Aug 2018, 22:54
JVSpotter wrote:
17 Aug 2018, 12:24
TAY801 OE-IFD LGG-PVG returning to LGG
https://www.rtbf.be/info/regions/liege/ ... id=9997203

http://avherald.com/h?article=4bc7b753&opt=0

https://www.lavenir.net/cnt/dmf20180817 ... a-deplorer

A real panic apparently, for no reason, but panic anyway
I didn't see "panic" being reported and I doubt the crew did panic.

After all they know well what happened to their colleagues flying UPS 6 out of DXB in 2010.
These guys didn't panic when there was a fire on board, they just died.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 18 Aug 2018, 10:46

Well said, H.A. : better to be safe than be sorry. As aviators get drilled into the bottom of their brain.
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by 737MAX » 18 Aug 2018, 11:12

sn26567 wrote:
18 Aug 2018, 09:37
The flight deck clearly overreacted!
Based on what do you dare to say such a thing?
You should be an example on this forum. You don’t have any info and yet, you blame the crew.

Please don’t tell me you belleve a single thing of the RTBF article. It’s complete nonsense.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by KriVa » 18 Aug 2018, 12:39

There's no such thing as overreacting when it comes to a possible fire onboard.
SWR111: fire detected at 2110, aircraft crashed at 2131.
UPS6: Fire detected at 1515, aircraft crashed at 1542.
Valujet 592: Fire detected at 1410, aircraft crashed at 1413.

Things can go south extremely quickly when a fire takes hold.
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Passenger » 18 Aug 2018, 13:54

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
18 Aug 2018, 09:56
Acid-drop wrote:
17 Aug 2018, 22:54
JVSpotter wrote:
17 Aug 2018, 12:24
TAY801 OE-IFD LGG-PVG returning to LGG
https://www.rtbf.be/info/regions/liege/ ... id=9997203

http://avherald.com/h?article=4bc7b753&opt=0

https://www.lavenir.net/cnt/dmf20180817 ... a-deplorer

A real panic apparently, for no reason, but panic anyway
I didn't see "panic" being reported and I doubt the crew did panic.

After all they know well what happened to their colleagues flying UPS 6 out of DXB in 2010.
These guys didn't panic when there was a fire on board, they just died.
And meanwhile, the aircraft is well over China right now:
https://www.flightradar24.com/TAY801/1d8b2a67

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 18 Aug 2018, 17:20

KriVa wrote:
18 Aug 2018, 12:39
There's no such thing as overreacting when it comes to a possible fire onboard.
SWR111: fire detected at 2110, aircraft crashed at 2131.
UPS6: Fire detected at 1515, aircraft crashed at 1542.
Valujet 592: Fire detected at 1410, aircraft crashed at 1413.

Things can go south extremely quickly when a fire takes hold.

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Post by sn26567 » 18 Aug 2018, 22:53

Freebird Airlines flight #FH638 from Norwich to Dalaman has reportedly suffered a bird strike on departure and diverted to Brussels (BRU), where it landed at 22:35, for engineering attention.

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Post by Passenger » 23 Aug 2018, 17:50

There will be extreme road travel chaos on the E40 Leuven-Brussels (Louvain-Brussels) tomorrow morning = Friday 24th August:

https://www.hln.be/nieuws/binnenland/va ... ~ab6e4f4f/

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Post by Passenger » 27 Aug 2018, 16:57

Engine problem for the Smurfs' A320:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4bce4d1d&opt=0

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Passenger » 28 Aug 2018, 10:41

Incident at ANR Antwerp Airport.

Apparently landing gear failure for a (small) GA aircraft.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 28 Aug 2018, 10:50

Looks like a PA-28 of the airport's main flying school.
https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20180828_0368 ... ven-deurne

And according to the brilliant specialists at vrtnws.be, the plane "crashed":
Op de luchthaven in Deurne is vanmorgen een vliegtuig in de problemen geraakt bij het landen en neergestort.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Passenger » 28 Aug 2018, 11:05

jan_olieslagers wrote:
28 Aug 2018, 10:50
Looks like a PA-28 of the airport's main flying school.
https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20180828_0368 ... ven-deurne

And according to the brilliant specialists at vrtnws.be, the plane "crashed":
Op de luchthaven in Deurne is vanmorgen een vliegtuig in de problemen geraakt bij het landen en neergestort.
VLM's Zürich-Antwerp is diverting to BRU Brussels:
https://www.flightradar24.com/WLM42ZA/1da98299

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Post by luchtzak » 28 Aug 2018, 11:11

Which registration ?

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 28 Aug 2018, 11:24

luchtzak wrote:
28 Aug 2018, 11:11
Which registration ?
OO-TMI ?

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by PttU » 28 Aug 2018, 11:29

luchtzak wrote:
28 Aug 2018, 11:24
luchtzak wrote:
28 Aug 2018, 11:11
Which registration ?
OO-TMI ?
or OO-TMX?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... ge=1&ifg=1

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Passenger » 28 Aug 2018, 11:29

luchtzak wrote:
28 Aug 2018, 11:24
luchtzak wrote:
28 Aug 2018, 11:11
Which registration ?
OO-TMI ?
OO-TMO was very nearby when it happened - but don't know if was OO-TMO indeed:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... o#1da98ab3

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Post by TLspotting » 28 Aug 2018, 11:42

Seems to be OO-TMX according to the pic on Twitter
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by KriVa » 28 Aug 2018, 11:45

jan_olieslagers wrote:
28 Aug 2018, 10:50
Looks like a PA-28 of the airport's main flying school.
https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20180828_0368 ... ven-deurne

And according to the brilliant specialists at vrtnws.be, the plane "crashed":
Op de luchthaven in Deurne is vanmorgen een vliegtuig in de problemen geraakt bij het landen en neergestort.
Looking at the state of the aircraft, I wouldn’t say “crash” is wrong terminology.
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by jan_olieslagers » 28 Aug 2018, 12:14

:) some speakers of English would call it a "crash-landing" ... But the Dutch verb "neerstorten" implies for me a fall - and there was none of that here. Indeed "to crash" is a less specific term. In English, a car can crash into a wall, that requires rewording in Dutch.

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