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Post by sn26567 » 02 Jul 2018, 18:37

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 18:12
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Bigger button orange man will attend the NATO summit on July 11-12.
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Shouldn't that be reported in the "Abnormalities in BRU-..." thread? :mrgreen:
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Post by Atco EBBR » 04 Jul 2018, 11:28

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
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If easterly winds still prevail next week, a strict adherence to the path onto RWY07L is advisable and no overflying of the NATO shack please.

:mrgreen:

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One would almost hope for strong easterly winds well into the night ;)

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Post by sn26567 » 05 Jul 2018, 17:32

Etihad plans to forge new codeshare partnerships with airlines around the world as it continues an operational review to narrow losses in 2018 and bring the carrier back to profitability and sustainable growth.

They might have learned from their poor investments in AB and AZ that a codeshare partnership is better than an outright capital share.
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Post by luchtzak » 07 Jul 2018, 01:25

Guess when the Belgian Red Devils started their game against Brazil :D
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Post by Passenger » 07 Jul 2018, 16:14

Schiphol Amsterdam Airport - one cabin crew member from a foreign airline (= no NL) won't finish his training as ccm: he was arrested this morning by Dutch police, after they recieved a hint from passengers. Result of the blood test: 0,2% (2 promil). I guess he was seen waggling through the airport.
https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/2271799 ... -vliegtuig

(Dutch Police never gives the name of the airline when something like this happens)

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Post by sn26567 » 08 Jul 2018, 16:51

Zimbabwe is reportedly considering merging Air Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe Airways to end tension between the two state-owned airlines. Two state-owned airlines competing against each other?

This whole country is a mess. No surprise that it is also the case for its aviation.
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Post by Passenger » 09 Jul 2018, 22:55

False bomb alert at Eindhoven Airport, on Ryanair's FR-1108 Eindhoven-Edinburgh.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ei-dan

Three other departures on hold, one arrival diverted.

https://www.ed.nl/eindhoven/bommelding ... ~a4959ed5/

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Post by Passenger » 15 Jul 2018, 12:07

Please let us all wellcome: Single European Sky 2+

"...European Aviation: no more delays, the time for action is now..."

Joint Statement by Violeta Bulc, EU Commissioner for Transport and Karima Delli, Chair of the European Parliament's Committee on Transport and Tourism.


2018 is expected to be the busiest year so far in terms of air traffic, with 11 million flights forecast. On top of that the summer holiday season is upon us, which is the busiest period for air travel. The bleak reality is that around 50,000 passengers will face delays - every day - of up to 2 hours in airports across Europe, leading to missed connections and unforeseen costs. Our current air traffic system is struggling to cope with the ever increasing volume of traffic, and other disruptions which contribute to these delays.

The system needs an urgent upgrade. Now is the moment to be bold – we need a more genuine cooperation between national air navigation service providers, and we need to work with Eurocontrol to create a more effective management of the European network. This will improve the efficiency and capacity of our network, which will in turn reduce delays and congestion in our airports, and also help to mitigate the serious environmental impact of aviation.

The EU has been working to move away from a national fragmented approach, towards a harmonised one. The existing EU legal framework governing European airspace (Single European Sky) has led to a better use of air capacity: Safety levels have improved, there is less pollution and also a decrease of fuel consumption of more than 2% per flight. We have also halted the increases in the cost of air traffic management. But this was not sufficient.

That is why the Commission went one step further and proposed a reform of this legal framework (Single European Sky 2+) in order to upgrade the system, but unfortunately this has been on hold for years. This reform would contribute to more efficiency, shorter routes and lower operational and environmental costs. This could generate 36 billion euro in savings over the next 20 years, and deliver up to 11 000 jobs.

Yes, the EU economy and the aviation sector are growing again and that is great news. Planes are packed, and airports are humming with activity. We now need to ensure that this European success story continues. We are therefore calling on the EU Member States and stakeholders to work with us to help build a modern and efficient air traffic infrastructure in Europe, allowing citizens to travel smoothly and for our economy to remain competitive. Only together can we bring about the changes that the system desperately needs.

Source:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/commiss ... iaments_en

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 15 Jul 2018, 12:56

sn26567 wrote:
08 Jul 2018, 16:51
Zimbabwe is reportedly considering merging Air Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe Airways to end tension between the two state-owned airlines. Two state-owned airlines competing against each other?

This whole country is a mess. No surprise that it is also the case for its aviation.
Are they in competition? As I read wikipedia, Zimbabwe Airways was just a temporary work-around for receiving some aircraft - acquired with considerable effort! - when Air Zimbabwe was obviously unable to.

Even highly developed Western Europe has seen countries with more than one state-owned airline, though meant to be non-competitors: France had Air France and Air Inter, Britain had BOAC and BEA.

And yes, the country of Zimbabwe might perhaps be called a mess - doesn't that apply to the majority of African countries? Then again, some might well call our own dear Belgium a mess, too. But all that is politics, of course.

Finally, allow me to complain once more about your eternal misuse of the word "aviation" where you obviously mean "commercial air transport". I hear of very little problems, if any at all, in general aviation in Zimbabwe. For just one example.

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Post by Passenger » 15 Jul 2018, 15:47

jan_olieslagers wrote:
15 Jul 2018, 12:56
sn26567 wrote:
08 Jul 2018, 16:51
Zimbabwe is reportedly considering merging Air Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe Airways to end tension between the two state-owned airlines. Two state-owned airlines competing against each other? This whole country is a mess. No surprise that it is also the case for its aviation.
And yes, the country of Zimbabwe might perhaps be called a mess - doesn't that apply to the majority of African countries? Then again, some might well call our own dear Belgium a mess, too. But all that is politics, of course.
On 16th May 2017, the European Union has added Air Zimbabwe to their Safety Ban List. Clear proof that something is wrong with that state airline, isn't it? Regarding aviation (and I haven't been there for three years), but "the mess at Zimbabwe" is on a quite different scale then "the mess in Belgium". That's not politics: that's factual. Yes, there might be less reports. But that's because the CAAZ is a mess too, and because the country's economy has collapsed. So there's no need for GA aviation anymore (apart from the 20 minutes scenic flights from VFA to the Victoria Falls).

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Finally, allow me to complain once more about your eternal misuse of the word "aviation" where you obviously mean "commercial air transport". I hear of very little problems, if any at all, in general aviation in Zimbabwe. For just one example.
Stop that nitpicking please. This website/forum is called Aviation24, not CommercialAirTransport24. Even the European Union's aviation safety department uses 'Aviation' for your 'commercial air transport'.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 15 Jul 2018, 16:46

Stop that nitpicking please. This website/forum is called Aviation24, not CommercialAirTransport24.
Sorry, I won't. And you hit my issue with the tip of the needle: this website styles itself "aviation", yet only discusses commercial air transport. Few messages about business aviation, still less about recreational aviation, only a very few about military aviation. Time and again I have challenged the moderators about this, and always I got the answer "this forum aims to cover all aspects of aviation" but little do they do about it.

Call that nitpicking if you will, to me a chair is a chair and a table is a table, and furniture is furniture.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 15 Jul 2018, 16:50

On 16th May 2017, the European Union has added Air Zimbabwe to their Safety Ban List. Clear proof that something is wrong with that state airline, isn't it?
I am quite willing to believe that, and indeed the local government admitted as much by creating the alternate Zimbabwe Airways to receive those nice new aircraft they had so much worked for.

Again, what's exceptional? What percentage of African airlines are on that ban list?

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Post by convair » 15 Jul 2018, 17:47

Passenger wrote:
15 Jul 2018, 15:47
jan_olieslagers wrote:
15 Jul 2018, 12:56
Finally, allow me to complain once more about your eternal misuse of the word "aviation" where you obviously mean "commercial air transport". I hear of very little problems, if any at all, in general aviation in Zimbabwe. For just one example.
Stop that nitpicking please. This website/forum is called Aviation24, not CommercialAirTransport24. Even the European Union's aviation safety department uses 'Aviation' for your 'commercial air transport'.
Pease go on with your nitpicking :) . It can hurt those with an overdeveloped ego, but I learn something almost every time I read your remarks; so do not hesitate to correct me whenever I wrongly use some word or expression or when my english is deficient.

It is important to understand what a word or expression actually means; it is a fundamental condition for a sound dialog, imho. :)

On another note, I disagree with your remark about the lack of business or recreational aviation news on the forum. I can understand your frustration about that but, as far as I can judge, the forum is open and you can create any topic you wish.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 15 Jul 2018, 18:04

Thanks, @Convair. But it is a thin line between criticising people and critising (their) words. Frankly, I do not see any overdeveloped egos round here - there are some environments on this www much worse in that respect, nl.wikipedia.org to begin with! - , but some valuable contributors seem all too delicate to (perceived) criticism.

Surely the aim and goal of a forum is the exchange of information (and perhaps of individual tastes and opinions, too) and our prime tool is language. So yes we should take care of language, just like a carpenter should keep the chisels sharp, and painters should keep a clear eye, and clean brushes :)

And yes, of course, anybody can post anything aviation-related, yes. That's another reply I was offered over and again, but it's too cheap an apology. Sure enough many people have tried their best. Remember @Captain Remy? or @Baron von Lederhausen? All gone now. In despair, I suppose, or at least in disappointment. As long as the moderators only post about commercial air transport, this forum will be about nothing else. As shown by history.

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Post by sn26567 » 15 Jul 2018, 21:22

jan_olieslagers wrote:
15 Jul 2018, 18:04
As long as the moderators only post about commercial air transport, this forum will be about nothing else. As shown by history.
Are you reading all the forums? You would certainly see that the Belgian Spotting forum shows every day the activity of private and military aircraft as well as commercial aircraft, that our main page reports about developments in military and business aviation as well as in commercial aviation.

And nobody here in the web team will prevent anyone to post about all these topics.
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Post by jan_olieslagers » 15 Jul 2018, 21:49

Luchtzak Tower, I say again:
That's another reply I was offered over and again, but it's too cheap an apology.
But thanks for confirming my point.

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Post by Passenger » 15 Jul 2018, 23:22

jan_olieslagers wrote:
15 Jul 2018, 21:49
But thanks for confirming my point.
Good to read that you have finally understood how it works here: if you want to discuss a General Aviation issue, you can open a topic about it yourself.

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Post by sn26567 » 16 Jul 2018, 17:46

sn26567 wrote:
08 Jul 2018, 16:51
Zimbabwe is reportedly considering merging Air Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe Airways to end tension between the two state-owned airlines.
Done deal!

Air Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe Airways will be merged under one board, with Zimbabwe Airways to operate international routes and Air Zimbabwe to be operating domestic and regional routes. Zimbabwe Leasing Aviation Company will be wound up as a result, and the debt of Air Zimbabwe will be taken over within the developed framework.
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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 16 Jul 2018, 18:51

Just had a casual look at FR24 minutes ago and I wondered why this :

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Two Ryanair flights rejected landing on EBBR RWY07L.


Looks like OO-TCV bound for GVA had to RTB and got priority.
Screenshot 2018-07-16 18.39.09.png

Looks a bit tricky to go around from RWY07L with the arrivals from the East, no?

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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 16 Jul 2018, 19:06

And minutes after the need to change the runway in use.
Now back to 25L/R.
Wind was 060 at 5kt and minutes later reported 290 at 19kt.

This led some guys to write their names in the sky :

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Never a dull moment for the ATCOs hey?

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