TUI fly Belgium in 2018

[Kapitein]

Somebody has more info about OO-SRO, OO-LOE and OO-LIS?
Apparently newcomers for TB this year

[TLspotting]

Somebody has more info about OO-SRO, OO-LOE and OO-LIS?
Apparently newcomers for TB this year

Those registrations are really weird because aircrafts belong to TUI are registered : OO-Txx...
737-8 : OO-TUx
E190 : OO-TEx (so TEB the next)
MAX : OO-TMx
Maybe 788 : OO-JDM, OO-TDA or OO-TDL ?

[jan_olieslagers]

@TLspotting: do not forget the Belgian CAA want to keep one and the same registration for one and the same aircraft. They have a limit, I think of 10 years, before an ex-OO plane can get a new/different OO-xxx.

And, if you'll excuse the nitpicking, the plural of "aircraft" is "aircraft" - "aircrafts" is not an existant word in English. Not an easy language, in the details!

[Bralo20]

@TLspotting: do not forget the Belgian CAA want to keep one and the same registration for one and the same aircraft. They have a limit, I think of 10 years, before an ex-OO plane can get a new/different OO-xxx.

OO-LOE, OO-SRO were never used, OO-LIS was a Jodel D120 which was cancelled 36 years ago in 1982.

So these registrations are free and clear to use.

[jan_olieslagers]

Thanks, @Bralo, you show more courage for research than I could muster on this "sunny sunday afternoon" OO-SRO rang a strong Sobelair bell in my dusty memory but I can really find no trace...

[Bralo20]

Thanks, @Bralo, you show more courage for research than I could muster on this "sunny sunday afternoon" OO-SRO rang a strong Sobelair bell in my dusty memory but I can really find no trace...

Apparently OO-SRO was indeed used but I guess the digital records of FOD Mobiliteit aren't going that far back. After a bit more research it seems that OO-SRO was a Sud Aviation SE210 VI-N Caravelle, in service with Sabena from around 1961 until ????.

[TLspotting]

https://m.planespotters.net/airline/Sobelair

[Bralo20]

Strange registrations though, first they broke with the OO-Jxx registrations in favour of OO-Txx and now some random ones unless There's a Loe, a Lis and a Sro that will get a plane named after them?

[Kapitein]

Somebody has more info about OO-SRO, OO-LOE and OO-LIS?
Apparently newcomers for TB this year

OO-SRO and OO-LIS are 2 B737-800's.
OO-LOE is the 2nd B787-8 (ex Thomson).

Thx 737MAX

[Passenger]

The Dreamliner (787 OO-JDL) seems to be AOG at Punta Cana (Dominican Republic).

(sources: FR24.com and Planefinder.net)

[Passenger]

The Dreamliner (787 OO-JDL) seems to be AOG at Punta Cana (Dominican Republic).

Wednesdays' TB303/304 will be G-VYGM (AirTanker A332):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-vygm
https://www.flightradar24.com/JAF303P/10592537

[Sai]

I noticed the pics in the flightradar app.
Rather special to see an Airbus A 330 in TUI livery.

[Shonix]

News in French: passengers took seats of other passengers who paid for them and refused to move.

How come?

https://www.rtl.be/info/vous/temoignage ... 91768.aspx

[KriVa]

Having lived the cabin crew side of things, allow me to say this: there’s always multiple sides to a story.
We’ve heard the side from the disgruntled passengers, but without counterstory by the crew or passengers who apparently refused to move, there’s really no saying whether what they say is true, or slightly exaggerated. Keep in mind; boring stories don’t generate revenue for a newspaper either
We won’t know what happened without both/all sides of the story.
During my time as crew, I’ve had quite a few passengers in wrong seats. Some of them moved quite easily, some of them needed a more direct approach. You do the best you can.

[sn26567]

With so many details and the interview with TUI spokesperson Florence Bruyère, the story seems true.

In such a case, the captain should have threatened to disembark the passengers sitting in the wrong seats. They would probably have moved to other seats rather than to remain in Cancun!

But calling the police to remove the passengers, retrieving their baggage in the hold, delaying a plane at the risk of paying an EU261 penalty, I can understand that the captain wanted to take off as fast as possible. He preferred inconveniencing three passengers who were in their right rather than a whole planeload.

[KriVa]

While the story might be true, and it probably is, it might as well be exaggerated by the passengers in the article, that's why I'd like to have the other side of the story as well.
Just as an example, they may have initially agreed to switch seats, and only afterwards noticed that the seats they switched to were less than ideal.

Once again, I'm not saying this is how it, went, I'm just advocating that just because something happened, doesn't mean it went exactly the way one party involved in the story says.

[Passenger]

News in French: passengers took seats of other passengers who paid for them and refused to move.
How come?
https://www.rtl.be/info/vous/temoignage ... 91768.aspx

With so many details and the interview with TUI spokesperson Florence Bruyère, the story seems true.
In such a case, the captain should have threatened to disembark the passengers sitting in the wrong seats. They would probably have moved to other seats rather than to remain in Cancun!
But calling the police to remove the passengers, retrieving their baggage in the hold, delaying a plane at the risk of paying an EU261 penalty, I can understand that the captain wanted to take off as fast as possible. He preferred inconveniencing three passengers who were in their right rather than a whole planeload.

I don't believe that RTL story. When it really happened as described, it was a standard situation for the crew: you ask their boarding passes, you show them the seat numbers and you ask them to move to the seats on their boarding passes. If they refuse, you call the purser. If they insist, the purser calls the captain. If they then refuse, the captain orders them to leave for safety reasons: "when passengers don't listen to the crew in a non-safety situation, they will surely not listen to the crew in a safety situation".

The passengers tell it all happened in ten minutes after boarding. Time enough for the captain to threaten what André (sn26567) said: "move to your seats, or I will offload you".

On top, it's clear that Florence Bruyère (TUI) was mislead by RTL, as her answer is the one that TUI gives in case of a downgrading before or at the gate. Not on the aircraft.

[convair]

In such a case, the captain should have threatened to disembark the passengers sitting in the wrong seats. They would probably have moved to other seats rather than to remain in Cancun!

I agree with that!

While the story might be true, and it probably is, it might as well be exaggerated by the passengers in the article, that's why I'd like to have the other side of the story as well.
Just as an example, they may have initially agreed to switch seats, and only afterwards noticed that the seats they switched to were less than ideal.
Once again, I'm not saying this is how it, went, I'm just advocating that just because something happened, doesn't mean it went exactly the way one party involved in the story says.

They say they always book those seats for valid reasons

On top, it's clear that Florence Bruyère (TUI) was mislead by RTL, as her answer is the one that TUI gives in case of a downgrading before or at the gate. Not on the aircraft.

That interpretation of Florence Bruyère's answer is pathetic BS! (Had it happened on FR, you'd be going through the roof!)

What is clear to me is that you're both trying to downplay the incident!
As André says, the story seems true. (enough)

Why try and discredit the victims i.s.o. blaming the culprits?

[Passenger]

Why try and discredit the victims i.s.o. blaming the culprits?

If you are right, then the "culprits" are the crew who totally failed in a standard situation: to remove people, unwilling to leave their non-assigned seats.

[convair]

Why try and discredit the victims i.s.o. blaming the culprits?

If you are right, then the "culprits" are the crew who totally failed in a standard situation: to remove people, unwilling to leave their non-assigned seats.

I think so. Good you gave it a second thought.