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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by sn26567 » 18 May 2018, 11:24

Amsterdam Schiphol may continue to experience a freighter slot crisis into winter 2018/19 after "differences of interpretation" over a local rule for cargo.
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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Passenger » 30 May 2018, 12:51

On request of the Dutch Department of Infrastructure, a Transavia 737-800 will do a "belevingsvlucht" (kind of noise test flight) todat at Lelystad Airport. PH-HXL is scheduled to take off from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport at 15h30.

Official site:
https://belevingsvlucht.nl/belevingsvlu ... fault.aspx

FR24:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-hxl

Newspaper AD.nl:
https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/kijk-hier- ... ~af97c8a7/

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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Passenger » 30 May 2018, 19:00

Passenger wrote:
30 May 2018, 12:51
On request of the Dutch Department of Infrastructure, a Transavia 737-800 will do a "belevingsvlucht" (kind of noise test flight) todat at Lelystad Airport. PH-HXL is scheduled to take off from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport at 15h30.

Official site:
https://belevingsvlucht.nl/belevingsvlu ... fault.aspx

FR24:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-hxl

Newspaper AD.nl:
https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/kijk-hier- ... ~af97c8a7/
Aircraft change caused a delay for HV-051:
https://www.flightradar24.com/TRA051/118d8454

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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Passenger » 18 Jun 2018, 14:41

The minister for Infrastructure has refused the so called Local Rule Proposal, intented to add more cargo flights to AMS by increasing the total number of flights:

https://www.logistiek.nl/distributie/ni ... -101163975

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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by sn26567 » 03 Aug 2018, 15:19

Amsterdam Schiphol Airport saw its cargo volumes decline by 2.6% in 1H 2018 as a result of fewer freighter services. The airport handled a total of 844,317 tons of cargo during 1H 2018.

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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by TLspotting » 15 Sep 2018, 14:04

Air Bridge Cargo should leave AMS, heading to LUX soon, if I well understood.

https://www.parool.nl/amsterdam/russisc ... ~a4604556/
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Post by Acid-drop » 15 Sep 2018, 14:14

Weird article.
ABC has a MoU with LGG.
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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Passenger » 15 Sep 2018, 14:17

TLspotting wrote:
15 Sep 2018, 14:04
Air Bridge Cargo should leave AMS, heading to LUX soon, if I well understood.
https://www.parool.nl/amsterdam/russisc ... ~a4604556/
They won't leave Amsterdam: they will only remove some flights from AMS to LUX "...where they will concentrate their activities..."

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Post by TLspotting » 15 Sep 2018, 14:29

Thank you for the correction...
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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Acid-drop » 22 Oct 2018, 19:08

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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Passenger » 28 Nov 2018, 22:38

Passenger wrote:
06 Dec 2017, 21:36
Passenger wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 18:57
Rumours in the Dutch press: within three weeks, the Dutch government will announce its decision to give Maastricht Airport a runway extension (today it's 2.500m real use).
Decision: extended from 2.500m to 2.750m. Thus full use of the runway is allowed.
News about Maastricht Airport: it seems that the Province will decide on Friday to reduce traffic at MAA. The use of the full runway length (2.750m) will be reduced, and "loud cargo aircraft" will be phased out.

https://ris2.ibabs.eu/Reports/ViewListE ... 4f38434e83

https://online.ibabs.eu/ibabsapi/public ... 8c64b24911

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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Atlantis » 29 Nov 2018, 20:15

Passenger wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 22:38
Passenger wrote:
06 Dec 2017, 21:36
Passenger wrote:
01 Oct 2017, 18:57
Rumours in the Dutch press: within three weeks, the Dutch government will announce its decision to give Maastricht Airport a runway extension (today it's 2.500m real use).
Decision: extended from 2.500m to 2.750m. Thus full use of the runway is allowed.
News about Maastricht Airport: it seems that the Province will decide on Friday to reduce traffic at MAA. The use of the full runway length (2.750m) will be reduced, and "loud cargo aircraft" will be phased out.

https://ris2.ibabs.eu/Reports/ViewListE ... 4f38434e83

https://online.ibabs.eu/ibabsapi/public ... 8c64b24911
Indeed Passenger,

And not only in MAA they reduce the flights for the heavy cargo's but today the city of Maastricht decided also, or better saying "their wish", is that AMS cannot grow anymore till 2023. So they prolonged the time already from 2020 till 2023 till there is more clarity about noise, emissions, etc

Regarding MAA, this is an option that ET and EK can move again some of their flights to BRU. But only the most modern ones, as BRU don't want noisy, old and poluting planes. So the B777 could be

Regarding the pax flights, this is maybe also an opportunity, who knows, but it will be very interesting the next coming years as BRU has still space during certain times of the day....

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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Acid-drop » 29 Nov 2018, 22:10

Only fully loaded 747 need the extra runway length, the impact may be limited. Its a political show.
But airlines get the message anyway.
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Re: Amsterdam flights capped; some cargo operators compelled to move elsewhere

Post by Passenger » 05 Mar 2019, 20:22

The Dutch Parliament wants that the slots now used for AMS-BRU-AMS are used for 'more valuable routes':
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=65622

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