Cathay Pacific has announced new direct non-stop routes to Brussels, Dublin and Copenhagen

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Inquirer » 30 Aug 2017, 13:12

I wonder if this route needs approval from the Russians too?
Otherwise it may prevent B.air from formally adding their flight code to it, just like I remember they cannot do on the ANA flight to Tokyo either, this in retaliation for the EU sanctions against Russia.
Not that it seems to hinder them a lot: ANA has added its flight code on several routes from BRU and they seem to be doing well in BRU.
Very interesting indeed.

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Stij » 30 Aug 2017, 13:30

For the moment bookings on DUS-HKG are still open in March 2018...

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Stij » 30 Aug 2017, 13:49

On the other hand CX's DUS schedule is in sync with SN's Africa wave...
Unfortunately because I prefer late evening departures eastbound...

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Inquirer » 30 Aug 2017, 14:43

Stij wrote:
30 Aug 2017, 13:30
For the moment bookings on DUS-HKG are still open in March 2018...

Cheers,

Stij
I suppose that until they formally announce the end of the route, it's going to be business as normal?

That is in case the rumored closure of DUS is indeed related to the expected opening of BRU, of course.

I just looked at the terms and conditions of the price raffle which is at the basis of this, and Cathay Pacific will notify the winners of the free tickets to the new destinations on the 31st of August in person, so I suppose we'll find out very soon if indeed we'll get to see direct flights between Brussels and Hong Kong, maybe as soon as tomorrow already?

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by luchtzak » 30 Aug 2017, 16:04

Inquirer wrote:
30 Aug 2017, 14:43
I suppose that until they formally announce the end of the route, it's going to be business as normal?
Airlines don't tend to announce route cuts.

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Ansett » 30 Aug 2017, 17:02

Today, we are still faced with two question marks :
1. is CX going to fly to BRU ? (it seems likely, but you never know) ;
2. is Air Belgium ever going to "take off" ?

As far as I can remember (but correct me if I'm wrong) the purpose of Air Belgium is (was) mainly to bring Chinese tourists to Europe. If this is still the case, there might not be a lot of competition between both airlines.
However, if there is competition between both carriers, it should make the fares drop, which would be a good thing for the customers.

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by BRU » 31 Aug 2017, 11:39

Press release Brussels Airport:

As of 25 March 2018, Cathay Pacific will be operating a nonstop service to Hong Kong from Brussels Airport. Brussels Airport will be the 13th direct European destination in Cathay Pacific’s network.
One World alliance member Cathay Pacific will operate four flights a week from Brussels Airport using an Airbus A350, on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. Flights will arrive at Brussels Airport around 7 am and will return to Hong Kong in the early afternoon around 1 pm.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/cathay- ... hong-kong/

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by lucas » 31 Aug 2017, 11:43

Maybe AB can fly on the other days. But still this is really bad for them. Is it possible for AB to not fly to Hong Kong, but to another Asian city? Or to fly to Hong Kong as of 25 october, and be faster than Cathay?

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by tolipanebas » 31 Aug 2017, 11:48

As I basically gave away yesterday already,
CX will move to BRU in the wake of the Lufthansa group codeshare deal which sees them join forces in Europe. ;)

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by luchtzak » 31 Aug 2017, 12:31

lucas wrote:
31 Aug 2017, 11:43
Maybe AB can fly on the other days. But still this is really bad for them. Is it possible for AB to not fly to Hong Kong, but to another Asian city? Or to fly to Hong Kong as of 25 october, and be faster than Cathay?
We will ask Air Belgium which steps they will take...

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by HQ_BRU_Lover » 31 Aug 2017, 12:38

Fantastic news, well done to those involved!

What long haul airlines except of the home carrier do we welcome now:
Air Canada, Air Transat, ANA, Cathay Pacific, Delta, Emirates, Etihad, Ethiopian, Hainan, Icelandair, Qatar, Rwandair, Thai, United, WOW Air, ...

Did I forgot some?

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Bralo20 » 31 Aug 2017, 12:46

The new CPH route seems to be seasonal (02MAY18-12OCT18), BRU and DUB are year round according to routesonline's information.

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Bralo20 » 31 Aug 2017, 12:49

luchtzak wrote:
31 Aug 2017, 12:31
We will ask Air Belgium which steps they will take...
Without AOC? Nothing. I wonder how long they are still going to sit and wait. VLM has their Slovenian subsidiary with an AOC but AB doesn't have that and for some reason I'm not sure that the FOD Mobiliteit will issue an AOC soon, maybe they'll better look at other countries to obtains an AOC?

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by quixoticguide » 31 Aug 2017, 13:01

HQ_BRU_Lover wrote:
31 Aug 2017, 12:38
Fantastic news, well done to those involved!

What long haul airlines except of the home carrier do we welcome now:
Air Canada, Air Transat, ANA, Cathay Pacific, Delta, Emirates, Etihad, Ethiopian, Hainan, Icelandair, Qatar, Rwandair, Thai, United, WOW Air, ...

Did I forgot some?
WOW air is not long haul!
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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by lumumba » 31 Aug 2017, 13:03

Do we now if they stop Dusseldorf?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Inquirer » 31 Aug 2017, 13:13

So it's confirmed now? Great news!
I'm actually quite proud of myself that I seem to have been able to get a scoop with this news! :D

Just wondering how people like tolipanebas seem to know what's coming at BRU, even from other airlines?
Is it because as he hinted at, they are going to conclude a codeshare deal in the coming weeks with Brussels Airlines now that the route is officially launched?
Very impressed.

One final thought: this is probably the worst news Air Belgium could possibly get at the end of August. :(
Instead of a license and their last chance to launch this winter, they get this on their boardroom table?!
Very interested in reading their reaction to this news and possibly an overdue update on their own plans.

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by SLM » 31 Aug 2017, 13:36

Still waiting for any news about Air Belgium...

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Re: BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

Post by luchtzak » 31 Aug 2017, 14:56

SLM wrote:
31 Aug 2017, 13:36
Still waiting for any news about Air Belgium...
Air Belgium comments on the launch of Cathay Pacific Hong Kong - Brussels, the airline added that the first Air Belgium aircraft will arrive in the next 10 weeks!

Forum discussion: https://www.aviation24.be/forums/viewtopic ... 38#p355138

Article: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/air-bel ... ls-launch/

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Re: Cathay Pacific has announced it will open new direct non-stop routes to Brussels, Dublin and Copenhagen

Post by Bralo20 » 31 Aug 2017, 15:20

Wonder what they will do with the plane if they don't have the AOC "in the next 10 weeks", put it somewhere on display? Or push it into an abandoned corner of Brussels Airport?

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Re: Cathay Pacific has announced it will open new direct non-stop routes to Brussels, Dublin and Copenhagen

Post by travellover » 31 Aug 2017, 18:21

Great news. Like Tokyo two years ago, Hong Kong was really a big miss on the BRU world map. Both cities were never directly connected by any passenger flight, if I'm correct ?
In the nineties, departing from LIS, TP connected BRU to Macau during more or less two years (1995-1997), with an A343.
The odds of seeing JJ (Oneworld) following the same way than CX to BRU are probably growing, I guess.
In that case, maybe SN, TG, CX, NH, and even HU could help BRU to become a small scissor hub between Brazil or Peru and Asia.
JJ has code-sharing agreements with LH, UA, TP, AC.
Each of them * airlines.
Cheers

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