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Post by convair » 29 Mar 2018, 21:37

nordikcam wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 21:27
SN501 wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 21:10
Thanks to the recent routes developments at BRU: currently 8 flights airborne BRU >< Asia!

NH232 BRU-NRT
HU491 PEK-BRU
HU492 BRU-PEK
HU7921 PVG-BRU
HU760 BRU-SZX
CX338 BRU-HKG
TG934 BKK-BRU
TG935 BRU-BKK
...and in a few moments SN602 BOM BRU
Still, LH considers there is no room for additional l/h SN flights! :?

Maybe too late now; several lost qpportunities already, and not only in Asia.

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Post by travellover » 29 Mar 2018, 21:44

convair wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 21:37
nordikcam wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 21:27
SN501 wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 21:10
Thanks to the recent routes developments at BRU: currently 8 flights airborne BRU >< Asia!

NH232 BRU-NRT
HU491 PEK-BRU
HU492 BRU-PEK
HU7921 PVG-BRU
HU760 BRU-SZX
CX338 BRU-HKG
TG934 BKK-BRU
TG935 BRU-BKK
...and in a few moments SN602 BOM BRU
Still, LH considers there is no room for additional l/h SN flights! :?

Maybe too late now; several lost qpportunities already, and not only in Asia.
Or maybe too soon. And LH considers 2019 - 2020 before to make further decisions and announcements, and it seems that LH has the power to open some new markets for SN in spite of competition. Nevertheless/ of course they must reach profitability.
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Post by Jetter » 30 Mar 2018, 07:48

convair wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 21:37
Still, LH considers there is no room for additional l/h SN flights! :?

Maybe too late now; several lost qpportunities already, and not only in Asia.
LH is looking for profitable l/h flights. Out of those 6 routes 3 are operated by heavily subsidized Chinese carriers, and 2 by loss-making airlines (CX, TG). Moreover all these airports are much larger than BRU and BRU can offer 0 (!) unique connections to passengers from any of these destinations, while all of these destinations can offer unique connections to passengers from BRU.

I'm not saying LH is right in their considerations, but this list of flights definitely doesn't show they're wrong as you imply.

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Post by SabenaForever » 31 Mar 2018, 20:32

SabenaForever wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 11:01
Qatar Airways will send there B77W 8-weekly to BRU starting 25 March 2018.

Hopefully with there new Q-suites...;)

Source: Qatar Airways
Now 13 april...

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Post by TLspotting » 04 Apr 2018, 12:51

SabenaForever wrote:
31 Mar 2018, 20:32
SabenaForever wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 11:01
Qatar Airways will send there B77W 8-weekly to BRU starting 25 March 2018.

Hopefully with there new Q-suites...;)

Source: Qatar Airways
Now 13 april...
Indeed...
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Post by SabenaForever » 05 Apr 2018, 09:50

SN501 wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 21:10
Thanks to the recent routes developments at BRU: currently 8 flights airborne BRU >< Asia!

NH232 BRU-NRT
HU491 PEK-BRU
HU492 BRU-PEK
HU7921 PVG-BRU
HU760 BRU-SZX
CX338 BRU-HKG
TG934 BKK-BRU
TG935 BRU-BKK
BRU is doing a good job if it comes to attracting new routes to Asia... 7 routes at this moment. You see where the growth is. Maybe SIN and ICN in the near future.. who knows. But what about the states? Why is it so difficult to attract new routes to the USA? Boston, Philly, Houston, SFO...

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Post by HQ_BRU_Lover » 05 Apr 2018, 10:51

SabenaForever wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 09:50
But what about the states? Why is it so difficult to attract new routes to the USA? Boston, Philly, Houston, SFO...
Overcrowded market?

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Post by JOVAN » 05 Apr 2018, 12:15

HQ_BRU_Lover wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 10:51
SabenaForever wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 09:50
But what about the states? Why is it so difficult to attract new routes to the USA? Boston, Philly, Houston, SFO...
Overcrowded market?
Indeed Houston, San Franscisco, Lax, Boston should be on the list of destinations.
Maybe something for AB ?

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Post by sean1982 » 05 Apr 2018, 12:33

HQ_BRU_Lover wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 10:51
SabenaForever wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 09:50
But what about the states? Why is it so difficult to attract new routes to the USA? Boston, Philly, Houston, SFO...
Overcrowded market?
On all British Airways flight from BRU, nearly all passengers are transferring and nearly all of them are going transatlantic

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Post by CTBke » 05 Apr 2018, 12:43

sean1982 wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 12:33
HQ_BRU_Lover wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 10:51
SabenaForever wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 09:50
But what about the states? Why is it so difficult to attract new routes to the USA? Boston, Philly, Houston, SFO...
Overcrowded market?
On all British Airways flight from BRU, nearly all passengers are transferring and nearly all of them are going transatlantic
same on the Brussels Airlines flight, a lot of pax transferring on UA SFO or AC
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Post by sn26567 » 05 Apr 2018, 14:29

sean1982 wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 12:33
On all British Airways flight from BRU, nearly all passengers are transferring and nearly all of them are going transatlantic
Of course, most passengers are transferring. Nobody in his right mind(*) would fly from Brussels to London when the Eurostar is so fast and easy for a city to city trip.

(*) unless he is an avgeek, but they are not normal people :lol:
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Post by crew1990 » 05 Apr 2018, 16:53

When I was still working for Germania in LGW, I was going back 2 or 3 times a month to Brussels, I traveled only one single time with Eurostar because it was often the most expensive option. Most of the time I was traveling with Eurolines as it was the cheapest option, or with British Airways or Brussels Airlines from LHR to BRU, British Airways from LGW to AMS or Easyjet from LGW to LUX.

Eurostar is far to have the monopole between Brussels and London, British airways and Brussels Airlines are very competitive, and if you have time but no money, Eurolines and Megabus are 2 goods alternative too

By the way Andre I still think I’m in my right mind :roll:

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Post by sn26567 » 05 Apr 2018, 17:08

crew1990 wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 16:53
When I was still working for Germania in LGW, I was going back 2 or 3 times a month to Brussels, I traveled only one single time with Eurostar because it was often the most expensive option. Most of the time I was traveling with Eurolines as it was the cheapest option, or with British Airways or Brussels Airlines from LHR to BRU, British Airways from LGW to AMS or Easyjet from LGW to LUX.

Eurostar is far to have the monopole between Brussels and London, British Airways and Brussels Airlines are very competitive, and if you have time but no money, Eurolines and Megabus are 2 goods alternative too

By the way Andre I still think I’m in my right mind :roll:
I'm sure you have a clear mind, but do you take into account the cost and time of going from the airport to the city centre? The tube from LHR (or the train from LGW) to downtown costs a hell of a lot of money and takes time. And the Diabolo surcharge in BRU also is no small money.
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Post by crew1990 » 05 Apr 2018, 17:43

I truly think that Eurostar is the most convenient way to travel from Brussels to London. No need to convince me, I totally agree. But I can tell you from my experience that when you travel last minute like I did for 1 year that Eurostar is often the most expensive. This is true that you have to pay for the tube to go to LHR, but depending where you are living in London, it can be sometimes cheaper to go to Heathrow than St Pancras.

By the way one day I was OFF and so in Brussels, Germania called me to see if I can operate a Gambia Bird Airlines flight from LGW to FNA (ow nostalgia) because of a sick cabin crew, I agreed but told them I was in BRU. They made me proceeding to LGW to operate the flight and they decided to get me on a Brussels Airlines flight to Heathrow and then with the train to LGW rather than with Eurostar to St Pancras. So I’m not the only one thinking this way :-)

But I guess If you have the chance to book your ticket well in advanced the Eurostar is maybe not so expensive, but I only hav’d this opportunity once

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Post by Passenger » 05 Apr 2018, 19:12

More competition for airlines:

Wednesday 4th April 2018: first Eurostar London St Pancras to Amsterdam (pax have to deboard at Brussels Zuid-Midi station for customs and passport control).
https://www.spoorpro.nl/materieel/2018/ ... van-start/

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Post by convair » 05 Apr 2018, 20:02

Passenger wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 19:12
More competition for airlines:

Wednesday 4th April 2018: first Eurostar London St Pancras to Amsterdam (pax have to deboard at Brussels Zuid-Midi station for customs and passport control).
https://www.spoorpro.nl/materieel/2018/ ... van-start/
Nice cooperation between The NL and Belgium: they keep our prisoners (is that still going on in Utrecht?), we check their passports. :)

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Post by sn26567 » 05 Apr 2018, 20:26

Passenger wrote:
05 Apr 2018, 19:12
Wednesday 4th April 2018: first Eurostar London St Pancras to Amsterdam (pax have to deboard at Brussels Zuid-Midi station for customs and passport control).
Pax to deboard only from Amsterdam to London, not on the opposite direction (passport control in London).
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Post by sn26567 » 27 Apr 2018, 18:53

FlyOrange (Netherlands) started service from Amsterdam to Al Hoceima in March, with plans to offer charter service from Brussels and Rotterdam to Al Hoceima and Tetouan on 11 July 2018, operated by Air Via (Bulgaria).
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Post by sn26567 » 09 May 2018, 14:19

ANA All Nippon Airways and Adria Airways are seeking to conclude a codeshare agreement, on service from Japan to Paris, Frankfurt and Brussels, as well as from these European points to Ljubljana.

If Adria manages to codeshare on the ANA flights between Narita and Brussels, SN should be able to do it too, methinks!
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Post by CTBke » 09 May 2018, 16:04

sn26567 wrote:
09 May 2018, 14:19
ANA All Nippon Airways and Adria Airways are seeking to conclude a codeshare agreement, on service from Japan to Paris, Frankfurt and Brussels, as well as from these European points to Ljubljana.

If Adria manages to codeshare on the ANA flights between Narita and Brussels, SN should be able to do it too, methinks!
don't know what's holding them back as you see the ANA codeshare on a lot of SN flights...
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