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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by sn26567 » 10 Apr 2017, 17:01

Good news: Adria Airways (Slovenia) and its pilots reached an agreement regarding strike demands, averting additional industrial action which had been announced for April, May and June 2017.
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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Passenger » 01 Jun 2017, 19:17

There are press reports that trade union NUOD (= public "servants" at Finance) will bully the passengers at BRU and CRL on Friday 02nd June 2017 as from 07h00. Reason: "too little staff".

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Stij » 01 Jun 2017, 19:42

Passenger wrote:
01 Jun 2017, 19:17
There are press reports that trade union NUOD (= public "servants" at Finance) will bully the passengers at BRU and CRL on Friday 01st June 2017 as from 07h00. Reason: "too little staff".
June 2nd?

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by sn26567 » 02 Jun 2017, 01:38

OK, I'll check that on arrival at BRU at 2100.
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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Passenger » 02 Jun 2017, 13:30

Passenger wrote:
01 Jun 2017, 19:17
There are press reports that trade union NUOD (= public "servants" at Finance) will bully the passengers at BRU and CRL on Friday 02nd June 2017 as from 07h00. Reason: "too little staff".
sn26567 wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 01:38
OK, I'll check that on arrival at BRU at 2100.
The trade unions had their pleasure this morning: a few thousand of arriving passengers had to queue to get out of the airport, some for more then 1,5 hours. The press reported about their bullying, so they've ended it around noon.

The slow-on action had nothing do with Brussels Airport by the way: it was part of a "general unrest that leaving staff is not replaced". And the unions announce a new lets-bully-innocent-people-action, aiming to delay outgoing passengers.

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenland ... iers.dhtml

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by luchtzak » 02 Jun 2017, 13:49

Passenger wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 13:30
Passenger wrote:
01 Jun 2017, 19:17
There are press reports that trade union NUOD (= public "servants" at Finance) will bully the passengers at BRU and CRL on Friday 02nd June 2017 as from 07h00. Reason: "too little staff".
sn26567 wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 01:38
OK, I'll check that on arrival at BRU at 2100.
The trade unions had their pleasure this morning: a few thousand of arriving passengers had to queue to get out of the airport, some for more then 1,5 hours. The press reported about their bullying, so they've ended it around noon.

The slow-on action had nothing do with Brussels Airport by the way: it was part of a "general unrest that leaving staff is not replaced". And the unions announce a new lets-bully-innocent-people-action, aiming to delay outgoing passengers.

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenland ... iers.dhtml
A work-to-rule action: https://www.aviation24.be/miscellaneous/st ... i-airport/

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by convair » 02 Jun 2017, 13:55

Passenger wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 13:30
Passenger wrote:
01 Jun 2017, 19:17
There are press reports that trade union NUOD (= public "servants" at Finance) will bully the passengers at BRU and CRL on Friday 02nd June 2017 as from 07h00. Reason: "too little staff".
sn26567 wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 01:38
OK, I'll check that on arrival at BRU at 2100.
The trade unions had their pleasure this morning: a few thousand of arriving passengers had to queue to get out of the airport, some for more then 1,5 hours. The press reported about their bullying, so they've ended it around noon.

The slow-on action had nothing do with Brussels Airport by the way: it was part of a "general unrest that leaving staff is not replaced". And the unions announce a new lets-bully-innocent-people-action, aiming to delay outgoing passengers.

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenland ... iers.dhtml
One can often see 3-4 customs officers chatting at the passengers exit after the bagage claim area. (Not that I'm complaining about that :) ;) as being checked is always unpleasant, even if you don't carry anything unallowed.)
I understand they "perform" ( :) ) random checks, but saying they are understaffed seems a bit far-fetched.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Passenger » 02 Jun 2017, 14:07

luchtzak wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 13:49
A work-to-rule action: https://www.aviation24.be/miscellaneous/st ... i-airport/

This morning customs officers at Brussels Airport and Charleroi Airport conducted a work-to-rule strike. The action at Brussels Airport ended at 10:40 while the one at Charleroi Airport took till 12:15, Belgian tv RTBF reports. From 7:00 in Brussels, customs officers carried out more thorough baggage checks at arrivals. The passengers were forced to queue between 30 minutes and 1 hour. On a sidenote the authorities found several stocks of meat, medicines, cosmetics and also 4 suitcases of cigarettes. Collecting a total of 48 000 euros in various fines. The different unions couldn’t exclude new “harder” actions within a fortnight.
Work-to-rule? When it is indeed an official rule that passengers may have to queue for 1,5 hours, then maybe the government should ament the rules. Example, by adding a rule "when the expected waiting time for "nothing to declare" exceeds 15 minutes, controls must be stopped until the waiting time is less then 15 minutes".

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by convair » 02 Jun 2017, 14:14

Passenger wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 14:07
luchtzak wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 13:49
A work-to-rule action: https://www.aviation24.be/miscellaneous/st ... i-airport/

This morning customs officers at Brussels Airport and Charleroi Airport conducted a work-to-rule strike. The action at Brussels Airport ended at 10:40 while the one at Charleroi Airport took till 12:15, Belgian tv RTBF reports. From 7:00 in Brussels, customs officers carried out more thorough baggage checks at arrivals. The passengers were forced to queue between 30 minutes and 1 hour. On a sidenote the authorities found several stocks of meat, medicines, cosmetics and also 4 suitcases of cigarettes. Collecting a total of 48 000 euros in various fines. The different unions couldn’t exclude new “harder” actions within a fortnight.
Work-to-rule? When it is indeed an official rule that passengers may have to queue for 1,5 hours, then maybe the government should ament the rules. Example, by adding a rule "when the expected waiting time for "nothing to declare" exceeds 15 minutes, controls must be stopped until the waiting time is less then 15 minutes".
And why not use sniffing dogs to do the job?

Ah, but yes, they wouldn't be unionized and they wouldn't go on strike. Unacceptable!

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by luchtzak » 02 Jun 2017, 14:14

Passenger wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 14:07
luchtzak wrote:
02 Jun 2017, 13:49
A work-to-rule action: https://www.aviation24.be/miscellaneous/st ... i-airport/

This morning customs officers at Brussels Airport and Charleroi Airport conducted a work-to-rule strike. The action at Brussels Airport ended at 10:40 while the one at Charleroi Airport took till 12:15, Belgian tv RTBF reports. From 7:00 in Brussels, customs officers carried out more thorough baggage checks at arrivals. The passengers were forced to queue between 30 minutes and 1 hour. On a sidenote the authorities found several stocks of meat, medicines, cosmetics and also 4 suitcases of cigarettes. Collecting a total of 48 000 euros in various fines. The different unions couldn’t exclude new “harder” actions within a fortnight.
Work-to-rule? When it is indeed an official rule that passengers may have to queue for 1,5 hours, then maybe the government should ament the rules. Example, by adding a rule "when the expected waiting time for "nothing to declare" exceeds 15 minutes, controls must be stopped until the waiting time is less then 15 minutes".
Work-to-rule is the official word for this kind of industrial action. Don't blame the messenger ;-)

Work-to-rule is an industrial action in which employees do no more than the minimum required by the rules of their contract, and precisely follow all safety or other regulations, which may cause a slowdown or decrease in productivity, as they are no longer working during breaks or during unpaid extended hours and weekends (checking email, for instance). Such an action is considered less disruptive than a strike or lockout, and obeying the rules is less susceptible to disciplinary action. Notable examples have included nurses refusing to answer telephones, teachers refusing to work for free at night and during weekends and holidays, and police officers refusing to issue citations. Refusal to work overtime, travel on duty, or sign up to other tasks requiring employee assent are other manifestations of using work-to-rule as industrial action.

It has been described as a decision to "Give the rules a meaning which no reasonable man could give them and work to that."

Sometimes the term "rule-book slowdown" is used in a slightly different sense than "work-to-rule": the former involves applying to-the-letter rules that are normally set aside or interpreted less literally to increase efficiency; the latter, refraining from activities which are customary but not required by rule or job description, but the terms may be used synonymously.

Work-to-rules can be misconstrued as malicious even when it is only a removal of good-will, such as employees insisting on taking all legally entitled breaks, or refusing a request to work unpaid overtime.[4]

Sometimes work-to-rule can be considered by employers as malicious compliance as they pursue legal action against workers.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Ozzie1969 » 06 Jun 2017, 13:25

If they work to rule, doesn't that mean that some work more than they usually do?

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by sn26567 » 06 Jun 2017, 16:07

British Airways cabin crew are set to go on a four-day strike on 16 June 2017 over a long-running pay dispute.
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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by sean1982 » 06 Jun 2017, 17:55

sn26567 wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 16:07
British Airways cabin crew are set to go on a four-day strike on 16 June 2017 over a long-running pay dispute.
I dont know why this keeps appearing in this topic, as BRU flights have not and Will not be affected by this strike. BA Customers need to be informed correctly!! :roll:

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Passenger » 06 Jun 2017, 20:13

sean1982 wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 17:55
sn26567 wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 16:07
British Airways cabin crew are set to go on a four-day strike on 16 June 2017 over a long-running pay dispute.
I dont know why this keeps appearing in this topic, as BRU flights have not and Will not be affected by this strike. BA Customers need to be informed correctly!!
When passengers out of BRU have a connecting flight at LHR that is affected by the strike, they will not be allowed to fly BRU-LHR when their rerouting cannot be confirmed before leaving BRU.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by sean1982 » 06 Jun 2017, 20:16

Passenger wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 20:13
sean1982 wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 17:55
sn26567 wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 16:07
British Airways cabin crew are set to go on a four-day strike on 16 June 2017 over a long-running pay dispute.
I dont know why this keeps appearing in this topic, as BRU flights have not and Will not be affected by this strike. BA Customers need to be informed correctly!!
When passengers out of BRU have a connecting flight at LHR that is affected by the strike, they will not be allowed to fly BRU-LHR when their rerouting cannot be confirmed before leaving BRU.
During the last strikes the full programme was flown as will be the case this time, as there is no customer impact this post us actually completely OT and should be olaced in "trivia"

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Passenger » 06 Jun 2017, 22:14

Those who have seen the annual account 2015 from Aviapartner, know they're getting a hard time. But yet, the trade union ACV-Transcom thinks that the company can easily invest in more hardware and more staff:
https://acv-transcom.acv-online.be/acv- ... oende.html

As from today, the ACV union has asked its members to work "as safe as possible", which means "let's delay flights without calling it a strike" (see above url). Next meeting management/unions is planned for 19th June 2017. A date to remember, unfortunately.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Stij » 07 Jun 2017, 07:55

sean1982 wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 20:16
During the last strikes the full programme was flown as will be the case this time, as there is no customer impact this post us actually completely OT and should be olaced in "trivia"
Could be, but still there's a major risk when flying BA beyond LHR (which is in most cases) that you end up in trouble, so it's on topic.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by sean1982 » 07 Jun 2017, 10:08

Stij wrote:
07 Jun 2017, 07:55
sean1982 wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 20:16
During the last strikes the full programme was flown as will be the case this time, as there is no customer impact this post us actually completely OT and should be olaced in "trivia"
Could be, but still there's a major risk when flying BA beyond LHR (which is in most cases) that you end up in trouble, so it's on topic.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Passenger » 10 Jun 2017, 12:07

wrote: "A4E welcomes European Commission initiative to enhance airspace efficiency, calls on Member States for urgent implementation"
https://www.aviation24.be/organisations/ai ... mentation/
Press release EU about this plan to keep the airspace open for overflights, in case of an ATC strike:
EN:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_ME ... 473_en.htm
FR:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_ME ... 473_fr.htm

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2017

Post by Passenger » 10 Jun 2017, 22:56

sn26567 wrote:
06 Jun 2017, 16:07
British Airways cabin crew are set to go on a four-day strike on 16 June 2017 over a long-running pay dispute.
The planned strike is cancelled:
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40233324

BBC: "Around 2,900 staff had been due to walk out from Friday in a long-running dispute about pay and benefits. BA had said the crew's pay and rewards are in line with competitors but Unite said the action was about benefits not being reinstated for crew who took part in earlier industrial action.The union says talks will now be held at conciliation service Acas to reach an agreement. Unite said the cabin staff, who work on both short and long-haul routes as part of the airline's "mixed fleet" agreement, are paid less than other BA crew. "Mixed-fleet" cabin crew have staged 26 days of strikes so far, and Unite says that as a result, 1,400 of its members have had their travel benefits taken away. BA had called the new strike "completely unnecessary" adding it "had reached a deal on pay, which Unite's national officers agreed was accptable". But the union said action had come about because the airline had treated staff who had participated in earlier strike action unfairly. "Punishing staff for using legitimate industrial means to reach a wage deal is a culture that Unite cannot accept," it added..."

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