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Ethiopian coming to BRU?

Post by winglets » 23 Aug 2004, 15:10

On A.net there's a discussion about Ethiopian airlines coming to Brussels.
Does somebody knows more or are we daydreaming?

With the following link you can see an article about a press conference.

http://www.waltainfo.com/EnNews/2004/Au ... ug20e5.htm

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Post by C_J » 23 Aug 2004, 15:25

Would be very nice. Brussels really needs more long haul flights! :!:

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Post by blackhawk » 23 Aug 2004, 16:22

If its true, it's wonderfull news! Brussels, a small airport getting bigger and bigger in a big world ;)

Maybe we can see the old OO-IHV again :)

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Post by Avro » 24 Aug 2004, 10:46

If this is true it would indeed be a nice long haul addition to BRU. But I would rather wait and see if this will really become true :?

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Post by sn26567 » 24 Aug 2004, 12:26

Ethiopian certainly has plans to come to Brussels. But currently they are probably more busy transporting their excellent athletes to and from Athens :-)
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Post by liebensd » 24 Aug 2004, 17:17

A former Sabena employee told me that in the past the relationship between Sabena and Ethiopian was verry good. This is maybe the reason why they are looking for Brussels.


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Post by lumumba » 24 Aug 2004, 17:41

Hi everybody.
Another idea could be a code-share with SNBA?
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Post by Lyulka » 24 Aug 2004, 19:48

The CEO who expressed preparations to create hub in West Africa said also that Ethiopian is currently striving to widen its market accesses to Brussels, Toronto and Abudabi
I've got the feeling this does not mean they will operate a flight into Brussels. Looks more like a code share to me...
Are they still operating flights to Ostende? Perhaps it's just about moving from Ostende to Brussels?

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Post by B737229 » 24 Aug 2004, 20:56

I think we have to see if Ethiopian will start a flight to east africa. I think Addis Abeba is the main gateway to the east african continenet, so there may be some potential.

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Post by sn26567 » 25 Aug 2004, 09:00

lumumba wrote:Another idea could be a code-share with SNBA
Like KLM with Kenya? Sounds like a good idea...
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Post by etihad » 26 Aug 2004, 06:39

lumumba wrote:Hi everybody.
Another idea could be a code-share with SNBA?
I can confirm the serious interest of Ethiopian in Brussels.

SN Brussels could certainly use an African partner, and Ethiopian might well be the one.

Nevertheless, Ethiopian is very interested in some SN routes like Kinshasa, Kigali, Entebbe and Nairobi.

So you could say that Ethiopian wants a piece of the high yield cake.

The SN Brussels African network will be under fierce attack if a co-operation between SN and ET shouldn't appear to be feasible, especially because Ethiopian is one of the better African carriers, with a good reputation.

Ethiopian could also steal a lot of SN pax because they provide good connections out of Addis Ababa to destinations like: Abidjan, Accra, Bamako, Brazzaville, Bujumbura, Cairo, Dar Es-Salaam, Djibouti, Entebbe, Harare, Hargiesa, Johannesburg, Khartoum, Kigali, Kilimanjaro, Kinshasa, Lagos, Lilongwe, Lome, Luanda, Lusaka, Nairobi, N'djamena and Zanzibar.

But we shouldn't feel sorry for SN if other airlines enter the African arena, should we?

Does SN really think that they can go on and on making profit on the African routes, without ever having a direct competitor ex BRU who wants a few slices of that same 'chocolate' cake?

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ET in Belgium, new wings to Africa?

Post by SN30952 » 26 Aug 2004, 08:50

liebensd wrote:A former Sabena employee told me that in the past the relationship between Sabena and Ethiopian was verry good. This is maybe the reason why they are looking for Brussels. Greetz, Dave
Yes, Dave indeed.
ET could be interested in BRU, in order to acquire traffic to YYZ.
Therefor it needs traffic rights, and where else than in BRU or LUX can it hope to get these rights?
Then ET should consider more than one weekly frequency, three runs would be ideal.
On the southbound (BRU to Africa) ET can offer a lot of connex, and become a competitor for SNBA. So SNBA would the only opponent to this new entry in BRU. Lets hope they not inherited this troublesome and awkward habbit from former Sabena, as to oppose to all new carriers into EBBR.

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Post by Avro » 26 Aug 2004, 10:21

I totally agree with you Fons.

But something even better for both carriers is if they cooperate. They could both benefit from such a cooperation.

As allready mentioned SN could really need a partner such as ET. ET could offer them a lot of passengers, new destinations and a good backup system in case there is a technical problem (if you see what I mean).

On the other side, ET would be able to sell tickets to BRU and maybe even to fly some routes to BRU, and even to YYZ via BRU.

That would be a very nice solution I think

Greetz
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Post by SN30952 » 26 Aug 2004, 12:26

Avro wrote:I totally agree with you Fons.
Unfortunately you weren't the CEO of Sabena, Chris.
Avro wrote: But something even better for both carriers is if they cooperate. They could both benefit from such a cooperation.
As allready mentioned SN could really need a partner such as ET.That would be a very nice solution I think. Greetz Chris
Yes, one reliable partner in East, one in West and one in Central Africa.

This would in the first place bring clients to Technics and SNBA. Because, inch Allah, not all the Africans come to stay in Belgium.
Secondly, Federal Belgium could allocate legal cooperation fund to develop these 'cooperating' airlines. Why not to them who want to cooperate with the belgian economy. Mutual help, that's what friends are for.

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Post by OrientThai » 27 Aug 2004, 14:23

Hi,do you think the service will be non stop from Addis Ababa to BRU or via MCO, for example.
Thanks in advance

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Post by SN30952 » 27 Aug 2004, 14:47

OrientThai wrote:Hi,do you think the service will be non stop from Addis Ababa to BRU or via MCO, for example.
Thanks in advance
Via MCO, Orlando, Florida. That's DisneyWorld: are you joking? :lol:

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Post by Avro » 27 Aug 2004, 15:01

SN30952 wrote:
OrientThai wrote:Hi,do you think the service will be non stop from Addis Ababa to BRU or via MCO, for example.
Thanks in advance
Via MCO, Orlando, Florida. That's DisneyWorld: are you joking? :lol:
No Fons I think he wants to say FCO instead of MCO.

Fons, as you probably know ET has a lot of flights going through FCO.

Well, it's a very interesting question you are asking OrientThai.

BTW welcome to this great site :)

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Post by OrientThai » 27 Aug 2004, 15:10

Oooops sorry for my mistake and yes I mean FCO.
Thank you Chris.

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ADD HAAB ADDIS ABABA ETHIOPIA

Post by SN30952 » 27 Aug 2004, 15:56

Avro wrote:No Fons I think (1) he wants to say FCO instead of MCO.
Fons, as you probably know ET has a lot of flights going (2) through FCO.
Well, it's a very interesting question you are asking OrientThai.
BTW (3) welcome to this great site :) Chris
(3) Yes wecome too OrientThai, but your avatar is TG and not OX, why!
(2) Ethiopia has indeed historical links with Italy. But why should ET add more landings to FCO? A European point more North would be worthwhile to consider commercially and operationwise. An Addis Abeba - Brussels - Toronto would be two quite even sectors. Air Canada's new policy would also be in line.
(1) And indeed, Chris :lol: MCO is not FCO, as a muck is not a f...!
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Post by etihad » 28 Aug 2004, 03:16

SN30952 wrote:An Addis Abeba - Brussels - Toronto would be two quite even sectors.
Addis Ababa - Brussels - Toronto - Brussels - Addis Ababa is indeed the routing ET is interested in.

Therefore, they need 5th freedom rights.

If those are not granted, we won’t see Ethiopian in Brussels anytime soon.

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