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Post by sn26567 » 30 Aug 2017, 22:14

Ryanair announced that it has joined Airlines UK, as carrier remains concerned at the uncertainty which surrounds the terms of the UK’s departure from the EU in March 2019.
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Post by sn26567 » 23 Oct 2017, 14:33

Air France boss Jean-Marc Janaillac says the UK must play by the EU court’s rules after Brexit, and that he is happy to see British airlines fly on the continent – as long as they accept European Court of Justice control.
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Post by sn26567 » 09 Nov 2017, 15:36

Wizz Air plans to base up to seven aircraft in the UK, in preparation for any instability that could arise from Brexit. The airline is keen to take both take-off and landing slots at London Luton vacated by Monarch.
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Post by sn26567 » 27 Nov 2017, 18:10

UK airlines are set to lose their rights to fly in the EU due to the government’s decision to leave the single market, according to leaked European Commission documents. The paper also suggests that a no-deal Brexit would lead to the grounding of many UK flights.
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Re: Brexit and British Airways, easyJet, Ryanair, et al.

Post by Yuqu12 » 28 Nov 2017, 13:06

How about the flights of European carriers to and from the UK?

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Yuqu12 wrote:
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How about the flights of European carriers to and from the UK?
The situation will be the same for them. But they keep the right to fly freely within 27 countries, instead of a single one for UK airlines.
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Post by Yuqu12 » 29 Nov 2017, 13:10

Well that's stupid, no flights between the EU and the UK. You can argue for a hard or soft Brexit, depending on which side you're on, but why should the citizen be the victim of all this?

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Post by KriVa » 29 Nov 2017, 14:01

More than likely, some sort of agreement will be worked out (same with shipping, automobile traffic etc.).
But it will take time, and terms of those agreements are far from certain.
Rest assured, there will still be flights between the EU and UK, and vice versa, it just won't be (as) trouble free as it is, or should be, now.
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Post by Yuqu12 » 29 Nov 2017, 14:21

Yeah sure, but I'm not that sure that those agreements will be the first point of the agenda. I think it's quite likely that there is a period of no flights between the UK and Member States of the EU because of the time of the negociations needed.

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Post by sn26567 » 29 Nov 2017, 16:20

BMI Regional s mulling talks with another EU country to work out a solution to AOC due to Brexit, with a possible base in Austria (just like easyJet). Plans will be finalised by October 2018.
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Post by sn26567 » 05 Dec 2017, 22:23

IATA says a hard Brexit would be a “disaster” for UK-based airlines, because they will not be allowed to land in Europe, although it is unlikely to come to that.
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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 13 Dec 2017, 12:44

An article in ATWonline yesterday 12DEC.

European Commission confirms Brexit implications.

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The European Commission Directorate-General for Mobility and Transport has confirmed the ramifications of the UK’s exit from the European Union (Brexit) on air transport.
In a “Notice to Operators,” issued Dec. 11, the Commission said—unless agreed otherwise—the UK will become a “third country” from 0000 local time on March 30, 2019, meaning European Union (EU) aviation law will no longer apply to the UK.

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To “obtain and keep” an EU operating license and access intra-EU air traffic rights, airlines must have their head office or registered office within an EU Member State and be majority owned and effectively controlled by EU interests.
“As of the withdrawal date, the operating licenses granted to airlines by the UK CAA will no longer be valid EU operating licenses. In order to continue benefitting from the freedoms of establishment and to provide air services within the EU internal market as of the withdrawal date, air carriers are advised to consider any measure required to ensure that the conditions for holding an EU operating license are complied with,” the Commission said.
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March 2019 is like tomorrow at the current pace of negotiations.

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Post by sn26567 » 13 Dec 2017, 14:10

Thus, it will not be enough for easyJet to have an Austrian licence and planes registered in Austria: they must be majority EU-owned!

I am expected a major disruption on 30 March 2019...
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Thus, it will not be enough for easyJet to have an Austrian licence and planes registered in Austria: they must be majority EU-owned!

I am expected a major disruption on 30 March 2019...
I recently flew easyJet in an OE aircraft and noticed that during the welcome speaches crew uses “easyJet European Airline”, so the intra EU flights will probably be operated by an EU subsidiary, in the same way as easyJet Switzerland, a Swiss company, operates the flights on HB aircraft.

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Post by sn26567 » 14 Dec 2017, 00:11

TUI Group (Germany) is putting contingency plans in place for Britain’s exit from the EU, aiming to address potential problem areas such as flying rights, visa requirements and changes in demand.
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Post by sn26567 » 18 Jan 2018, 23:13

European Union is considering emergency plans to keep British planes flying in the EU after a no deal Brexit. EU agreements allow airlines to operate and land in other member states of the bloc but Britain will leave those after Brexit, even if there is a deal.

And what about European planes flying in Great Britain? Hello Theresa?
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Post by sn26567 » 25 Jan 2018, 23:36

UK Transport Secretary Chris Grayling is confident the country can get a “good deal” on aviation after Brexit since it is in the best interests of European countries to seek an “open, liberal arrangement for aviation” following the UK’s departure from the bloc.
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Post by sn26567 » 28 Feb 2018, 19:18

Thomas Cook CEO Christoph Debus is hopeful the Group can find an alternative to being broken up if post-Brexit operational continuity requires changes to its status as a majority UK-owned company.
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Post by sn26567 » 07 May 2018, 17:25

In a similar way as easyJet, Flybmi may apply for an AOC in Austria as a hedge against the UK’s exit from the EU occurring in March 2019.
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Post by sn26567 » 25 May 2018, 23:33

EasyJet status as a UK airline was confirmed by the government, even if it is EU-owned, according to comments made by easyJet CFO Andrew Findlay.

Ryanair now expects to receive its UK AOC by end up 2018, a slight delay from previous September 2018 date.
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