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A very worrying sentence in the statement on the main page of this site:

"Later, Lufthansa has the firm intention to integrate Brussels Airlines into the Eurowings platform."

So, goodbye Brussels Airlines, may you rest in peace... #RIPBrusselsAirlines

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Guess (eventually) we can say goodbye to our Star Alliance benefits if SN becomes EW...

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sn26567 wrote:Some preliminary information here:

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/brussel ... s-not-yet/
Pretty much what "the doomsayers" according to some have been predicting for a while now. It was unavoidable really :/

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Bralo20 wrote:Guess (eventually) we can say goodbye to our Star Alliance benefits if SN becomes EW...
This would be very painful

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The only sliver of hope is that Eurowings fails and Carsten Spohr gets to pack his bags and leave LH...

But that's not really nice towards the people working at EW...

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sn26567 wrote:Some preliminary information here:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/brussel ... s-not-yet/
If that's correct, it's the opposite of what the doomsayers have repeated here three times a day. There will be no integration of Brussels Airlines into EuroWings, the Africa-flights will not move from Brussels to Germany, and the company "nv/sa Brussels Airlines" will (probably) remain to exist. Only nv/sa SN Airlholding will (probably) be integrated into Lufthansa.

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Passenger wrote:
sn26567 wrote:Some preliminary information here:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/brussel ... s-not-yet/
If that's correct, it's the opposite of what the doomsayers have repeated here three times a day. There will be no integration of Brussels Airlines into EuroWings, the Africa-flights will not move from Brussels to Germany, and the company "nv/sa Brussels Airlines" will (probably) remain to exist. Only nv/sa SN Airlholding will (probably) be integrated into Lufthansa.
I'm totally agree with you...

Edit moderator: next page https://www.aviation24.be/forums/viewtopic ... &start=500
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Passenger wrote:
sn26567 wrote:Some preliminary information here:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/brussel ... s-not-yet/
If that's correct, it's the opposite of what the doomsayers have repeated here three times a day. There will be no integration of Brussels Airlines into EuroWings, the Africa-flights will not move from Brussels to Germany, and the company "nv/sa Brussels Airlines" will (probably) remain to exist. Only nv/sa SN Airlholding will (probably) be integrated into Lufthansa.
Indeed why don't people have the patience to wait till tomorrow before spreading different Apocalypse Now scenario's...

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Passenger wrote: If that's correct, it's the opposite of what the doomsayers have repeated here three times a day. There will be no integration of Brussels Airlines into EuroWings, the Africa-flights will not move from Brussels to Germany, and the company "nv/sa Brussels Airlines" will (probably) remain to exist. Only nv/sa SN Airlholding will (probably) be integrated into Lufthansa.
Wait? And what's this?
"Later, Lufthansa has the firm intention to integrate Brussels Airlines into the Eurowings platform."

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Bralo20 wrote:Wait? And what's this?
"Later, Lufthansa has the firm intention to integrate Brussels Airlines into the Eurowings platform."
Yes, what is that? Is it a statement from Brussels Airlines or from Lufthansa?

Or it is one of the many thaughts, posted here, about what could happen?

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Bralo20 wrote:
Passenger wrote: If that's correct, it's the opposite of what the doomsayers have repeated here three times a day. There will be no integration of Brussels Airlines into EuroWings, the Africa-flights will not move from Brussels to Germany, and the company "nv/sa Brussels Airlines" will (probably) remain to exist. Only nv/sa SN Airlholding will (probably) be integrated into Lufthansa.
Wait? And what's this?
"Later, Lufthansa has the firm intention to integrate Brussels Airlines into the Eurowings platform."
Andre usually has reliable info and good sources has he not?

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Both sides give themselves one year to discuss how SN can best be integrated into EW, and during that period, decisions of the board must be taken unanimously, so count on the Belgian directors to oppose any German move that could go too far!

My bet is for a "soft" integration (cf. soft brexit): Brusselswings with Intercontinental flights and European feeder flights, and perhaps some Eurowings flights to tourist destinations.
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sn26567 wrote:My bet is for a "soft" integration (cf. soft brexit): Brusselswings with Intercontinental flights and European feeder flights, and perhaps some Eurowings flights to tourist destinations.
I fully agree with that - it's what I've heared also.

And regarding the EuroWings flights at BRU: it will depend on the competition on the route and the profile of the passengers on that route. Example: more EuroWings flights to the Spanish costa's.

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I don't see the long haul flights changing to Brusselswings ...
In Africa it will stay Brussels Airlines.
But time will tell.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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lumumba wrote:In Africa it will stay Brussels Airlines.
... or even Sabena !
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sn26567 wrote:My bet is for a "soft" integration (cf. soft brexit): Brusselswings with Intercontinental flights and European feeder flights, and perhaps some Eurowings flights to tourist destinations.
And do you expect BWings to remain a full star alliance member ?

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sn-remember wrote:
sn26567 wrote:My bet is for a "soft" integration (cf. soft brexit): Brusselswings with Intercontinental flights and European feeder flights, and perhaps some Eurowings flights to tourist destinations.
And do you expect BWings to remain a full star alliance member ?
Yes. Already now, both Eurowings and Germanwings offer some of the Star Alliance benefits: Miles&More frequent flyer rewards, through bookings and baggage transfers, etc.: that's a step in the right direction. In Skyteam, Delta codeshares with low-cost Transavia. So I am not worried about SN leaving the Star Alliance.
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Code sharing on some routes with some carriers is one thing... Being a full alliance member is another thing.
It's like being inside the EU vs outside , UK having to negociate parallel deals without much bargaining power.

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sn26567 wrote:So I am not worried about SN leaving the Star Alliance.
For me this will change things
Eurobonus is big in northern Europe, and much more generous than LHs system
Not in *A is not in Eurobonus is probably no trips booked for me

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