Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Well, ok, perhaps my writing sounded like panicking, and I must agree there was no reason for that. Still, the published level of service is disrupted, I do consider that a quite dark indication. We do not know the details of the "why", of course, and those who know will not tell - understandably, no blame! But it seems clear to me that ATCO staff are at the edge of being over-sollicited.

That no flights to or from EBBR/BRU were affected is no real surprise: Brussels ACC is the service for the airspace from FL195 upwards - the very few flights to or from Zaventem at this nightly time can be routed to remain below FL195, in the Belgian airspace aka EBBU FIR.

A question that some _might_ be able and entitled to answer: if emergency frequencies were/are still being watched, was it still by civilian staff, perhaps from another airport, or by the military?

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Hello everybody,
FR24 shows a fire truck active as "FIRE507" at BRUcargo since a moment.

Is it waiting an emergency landing or inspecting a parked aircraft :?:

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Airbus A330 wrote:Hello everybody,
FR24 shows a fire truck active as "FIRE507" at BRUcargo since a moment.

Is it waiting an emergency landing or inspecting a parked aircraft :?:
Maybe for OE-GPS = Tyrolean Air Ambulance, coming from Palermo as TYW842S, about to land?

(Cessna 550 Citation Bravo)

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Passenger wrote:
Airbus A330 wrote:Hello everybody,
FR24 shows a fire truck active as "FIRE507" at BRUcargo since a moment.

Is it waiting an emergency landing or inspecting a parked aircraft :?:
Maybe for OE-GPS = Tyrolean Air Ambulance, coming from Palermo as TYW842S, about to land?

(Cessna 550 Citation Bravo)
Due to a fuel leak at Brucargo Apron. Solved.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Hue wrote:
Airbus A330 wrote:Hello everybody,
FR24 shows a fire truck active as "FIRE507" at BRUcargo since a moment.

Is it waiting an emergency landing or inspecting a parked aircraft :?:
Due to a fuel leak at Brucargo Apron. Solved.
Thanks a lot, Hue! ;)

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Airbus A330 wrote:Hello everybody,
FR24 shows a fire truck active as "FIRE507" at BRUcargo since a moment.

Is it waiting an emergency landing or inspecting a parked aircraft :?:
All vehicles such as fire trucks, winter ops, AI, BCU,... operating in the manoeuvering area are equipped with transponders now, so TWR recognizes them easily.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Tompompier wrote:
Airbus A330 wrote:Hello everybody,
FR24 shows a fire truck active as "FIRE507" at BRUcargo since a moment.

Is it waiting an emergency landing or inspecting a parked aircraft :?:
All vehicles such as fire trucks, winter ops, AI, BCU,... operating in the manoeuvering area are equipped with transponders now, so TWR recognizes them easily.
This sounds like a good idea, although I never realised before that FR24 also recognises them now.
André
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Great system to enhance safety, especially when vehicles need to enter or cross an active runway.
The downside is a clutter of transponder read-outs when 7 or more vehicles attend an incident.
Was there only one fire truck visible on FR24?

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Low-level coverage of EBBR is relatively poor, which may be why you con't see vehicles on the manoeuvring area too often on FR24. (same thing with taxiing aircraft, you don't see them too often, and certainly not all of them).
If you'd like a good example of an airport with (very) good low-level coverage, have a look at EHAM.
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Thank you all for your explanations & details! :)

I already saw "SUPP" and "INSP" vehicles a few times. 8-)

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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JAF-6114 TB-6114 TFS-BRU (Tenerife-Brussels) from Saturday, ETA 15h40, is delayed: OO-JLO (737-800) is still on the ground in Tenerife at this very moment.

It seems that the aircraft had an unusal landing at Tenerife yesterday: the final approach was aborted and the aircraft then went into a long holding.

Flight path (click on "Play"):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tb6113

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Passenger wrote:JAF-6114 TB-6114 TFS-BRU (Tenerife-Brussels) from Saturday, ETA 15h40, is delayed: OO-JLO (737-800) is still on the ground in Tenerife at this very moment.

It seems that the aircraft had an unusal landing at Tenerife yesterday: the final approach was aborted and the aircraft then went into a long holding.

Flight path (click on "Play"):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tb6113
A Privilege Style 767-300ER (EC-LZO) is about to land in BRU, coming from Madrid as JAF-229P.

Perhaps backup for OO-JLO, who still seems to be on the ground at TFS (says flightradar24.com)

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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CRL seems to be closed, or at least reduced in capacity? A few diversions to LGG already. Anybody with more news?

EDIT: Apparently a PC-12 had a tyre burst.
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KriVa wrote: EDIT: Apparently a PC-12 had a tyre burst.
http://www.lanouvellegazette.be/1567570 ... ieurs-vols
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Passenger wrote:A Privilege Style 767-300ER (EC-LZO) is about to land in BRU, coming from Madrid as JAF-229P.

Perhaps backup for OO-JLO, who still seems to be on the ground at TFS (says flightradar24.com)
The "rescue mission" was done by G-ZAPX of Titan Airways that flew AGP-TFS-BRU-LTN yesterday. EC-LZO operated a flight to/from PMI yesterday.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Update from Flightradar24.com:

JAF-113 / TB113 just took off from TFS Tenerife. Aircraft: OO-JLO.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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On 09th May 2016, SN-3667 Brussels-Toulouse (OO-DWG Avro RJ-100) was climbing out of 07R when the crew stopped the climb at FL110 reporting a hydraulic leak. The aircraft entered a hold and landed safely back on runway 07L about 40 minutes after departure.

Source - more info:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4982a23d&opt=0

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Brussels Airlines flight SN3139 from Brussels to Firenze made a 180 over Switzerland and went back in Brussels
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Bapt' wrote:Brussels Airlines flight SN3139 from Brussels to Firenze made a 180 over Switzerland and went back in Brussels
OO-DWB (also RJ-100) just took off from BRU as SN-3139A.

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I saw on FR24 that SN is using today a Titan Airways A320 (msn4701 G-POWK). Is there a delay in delivery of one of its "own"?

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