Man, both of you are definatly much more brillliant than the people who made FR such a succes talk about ego ... LMAO
(Off course my comments were neglected as usual )
And inquirer, your monopolistic abuse theory is wrong again. FR fares dropped 4% on average last year, so there is no rasing of fares in traditional markets to support the new ones. FR has a yield passive/ LF positive strategy. Routes where fares where raised only indicate a higher demand
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You know, Sean you really amaze me by your absolute loyalty!sean1982 wrote:Man, both of you are definatly much more brillliant than the people who made FR such a succes talk about ego ... LMAO
It stands unquestioned right up to 1 second before it officially get's ditched and replaced by a completely different plan. You showed this attitude throughout our discussions in 2013, and you still do, but now in defence of a completely different strategy, one you said in 2013 would never happen.
As you say: on average, indeed, so including the new markets where they dump capacity?sean1982 wrote:And inquirer, your monopolistic abuse theory is wrong again. FR fares dropped 4% on average last year, so there is no rasing of fares in traditional markets to support the new ones. FR has a yield passive/ LF positive strategy. Routes where fares where raised only indicate a higher demand
How much extra capacity was added last year there, Sean?
At very low prices, often lower than at the traditional bases even, according to several forum members.
Well then, how come the average fares have only dropped by so few (despite rock bottom fuel prices)?
Could it possibly be Flanker and Stij's observations are indeed right, and fares have indeed risen at the traditional markets? :wtf:
Of course they are!
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On delivery flight for Ryanair right now: Boeing 737-8AS, EI-FOG, from Boeing Field.
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Not because of new markets but because of higher demand on traditional routes. Furthermore is a few sample flights from 2 forum members not in the furthest a representation of the whole FR network. I remember flanker complaining about not finding cheap tickets to Sardinia in the middle of summer
Btw, it has nothing to do with loyalty but about you making false claims to support your agenda
Btw, it has nothing to do with loyalty but about you making false claims to support your agenda
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I accept the point but still think it's a very different scenario to Ryanair setting up a separate, premium brand.Inquirer wrote:This is an aviation forum, right, so I do suppose you know that BA for instance is just one of the many brands of IAG, a holding company which also trades as Iberia, Vueling or Aer Lingus depending the market they are active in?
I am equally sure you are aware a skoda is manufactured by the same company as an Audi.
And that 2/3rd of the washing powders in your local Colruyt store comes from the same company too.
Et cetera.
But that is just one example. I still don't see clear evidence of competitors cutting costs to a degree that will bring them close to Ryanair.Inquirer wrote: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=57924
It's to early to tell if they are right or overly optimistic in their claim, but as was pointed out above, an 239 seat A321 is going to have a serious competitive advantage over the much smaller 737s used by ryanair.
I think their optimistic comment needs to be read in relation to that as I think that such a plane will indeed be able to beat ryanair's unit costs by a considerable margin. If they put it on high demand routes where the 2 compete, it's going to hurt the one with the smaller plane and they are not exactly after the kind of customer who's persuated by allegedly better service or frequencies, are they?
Btw, it is 230 seat A321s. 239 seat A321s, if confirmed, are only for deliveries from 2020.
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Seems like the 1 euro fares are back € 1.00 to Berlin from Brussels.
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In the absence of figures coming from Ryanair itself, here is an interesting chart produced by CAPA. The airline's "Always Getting Better" effort is producing the strongest revenue gains in its 2Q (summer travel) :
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Ryanair opens a base in Nuremberg (NUE)
Like what was announced FR's focus at the moment is on germany and eastern europe.
http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ?market=en
Like what was announced FR's focus at the moment is on germany and eastern europe.
http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ?market=en
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Bases in VNO, HAM, SOF and OTP in the pipeline for coming Winter season.
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The bases in Hamburg and Bucharest (no. 81) have been confirmed.
Significant increases in Berlin (+4 aircraft = 9), Athens (+1 = 6) and Valencia (+1 = 3).
Significant increases in Berlin (+4 aircraft = 9), Athens (+1 = 6) and Valencia (+1 = 3).
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Today delivery to Ryanair of this year's 11th Boeing 737-8AS, EI-FOM, from Boeing Field.
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Ryanair reached an “agreement in principle” with Norwegian and TAP Portugal on supplying feeder passengers for long-haul flights. Talks with Aer Lingus ended, while other airlines, including Ethiopian Airlines, are still in talks with the Irish LCC.
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Ryanair, today, launched it's jet charter operations by offering its Boeing 737-700 in full business class configuration for charter flights up to 6 hours. Full catering services are available with crew receiving special training before every charter flight.
http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ?market=en
http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ?market=en
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I almost can't believe what I'm seeing here... Ryanair offering a full business class charter plane !sean1982 wrote:Ryanair, today, launched it's jet charter operations by offering its Boeing 737-700 in full business class configuration for charter flights up to 6 hours. Full catering services are available with crew receiving special training before every charter flight.
http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ?market=en
Are those flights operated under the Ryanair branding (A/C in FR colors etc) or is this a "new" branch and do you have any idea if they have a target of X flights /month ?
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EI-SEV is painted in Ryanair livery, but has a full business cabin on the inside. I'm sure there is an internal target but i dont know how much really. The airplane was primarly purchased for base training and so I think the charter business will be "on the side" allthough it will off course take preference over training.
If SEV is booked for a charter, then an -800 will be used for base training
If SEV is booked for a charter, then an -800 will be used for base training
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I'm curious as to how it will turn out for FR because I personally don't associate the Ryanair brand with a fine business class product and so do a lot of people so I can imagine that businesses looking for a charter plane do no think about FR instantly.
Thanks for the info btw Sean, I thought the -700 was in normal FR ops but if it is indeed a training plane than a charter product on the side is indeed feasible
Thanks for the info btw Sean, I thought the -700 was in normal FR ops but if it is indeed a training plane than a charter product on the side is indeed feasible
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They will need to do some advertising for this im sure
Although I feel that this setup: 60 guests on a 6hr range jet in europe is thinly populated. If the rates are acceptable it might be viable
(It used to be configured with 148 y cabin indeed btw, but that just didnt work properly)
Although I feel that this setup: 60 guests on a 6hr range jet in europe is thinly populated. If the rates are acceptable it might be viable
(It used to be configured with 148 y cabin indeed btw, but that just didnt work properly)
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sounds like the perfect setup for soccer teams
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there is a youtube video showcasing the -700
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RYANAIR OPENS NEW VILNIUS BASE (NO 82) & LAUNCHES WINTER 2016 SCHEDULE
15 Mar 2016
2 AIRCRAFT, $200M INVESTMENT & 2 NEW ROUTES (BERLIN & MALTA)
Ryanair, Europe’s favourite airline, today (15 March) announced it will open a new base at Vilnius Airport (No 82), from 30th October, with 2 aircraft (an investment of $200m), as Ryanair grows its Vilnius traffic by 16%.
In addition, Ryanair launched its Lithuanian winter 2016 schedule with 2 new routes to Berlin and Malta and 3 new winter services to Birmingham, London Luton and London Stansted (23 routes in total), which will deliver 1.5m customers p.a. and support over 1,100* “on-site” jobs.
Ryanair’s Lithuania winter 2016 schedule will deliver:
Vilnius
2 based aircraft ($200m)
2 new routes: Berlin (3 weekly) & Malta (1 weekly)
2 new winter services: Birmingham (2 weekly) & Luton (4 weekly)
More flights to Milan Bergamo (5 weekly)
15 routes in total
46 weekly flights
860,000 customers p.a. (+16%)
645* “on site” jobs p.a.
Kaunas
2 based aircraft
7 routes including Bristol (2 wkly), Copenhagen (daily), Dublin (4 wkly), Shannon (1 wkly), Eilat Ovda (2 wkly) & London Stansted (4 wkly)
More flights to Luton (daily)
27 weekly flights
600,000 c’mers p.a.
450 “on-site” jobs p.a.
Palanga
1 route to London Stansted (2 weekly)
33,000 c’mers p.a.
- See more at: http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ZJVLo.dpuf
15 Mar 2016
2 AIRCRAFT, $200M INVESTMENT & 2 NEW ROUTES (BERLIN & MALTA)
Ryanair, Europe’s favourite airline, today (15 March) announced it will open a new base at Vilnius Airport (No 82), from 30th October, with 2 aircraft (an investment of $200m), as Ryanair grows its Vilnius traffic by 16%.
In addition, Ryanair launched its Lithuanian winter 2016 schedule with 2 new routes to Berlin and Malta and 3 new winter services to Birmingham, London Luton and London Stansted (23 routes in total), which will deliver 1.5m customers p.a. and support over 1,100* “on-site” jobs.
Ryanair’s Lithuania winter 2016 schedule will deliver:
Vilnius
2 based aircraft ($200m)
2 new routes: Berlin (3 weekly) & Malta (1 weekly)
2 new winter services: Birmingham (2 weekly) & Luton (4 weekly)
More flights to Milan Bergamo (5 weekly)
15 routes in total
46 weekly flights
860,000 customers p.a. (+16%)
645* “on site” jobs p.a.
Kaunas
2 based aircraft
7 routes including Bristol (2 wkly), Copenhagen (daily), Dublin (4 wkly), Shannon (1 wkly), Eilat Ovda (2 wkly) & London Stansted (4 wkly)
More flights to Luton (daily)
27 weekly flights
600,000 c’mers p.a.
450 “on-site” jobs p.a.
Palanga
1 route to London Stansted (2 weekly)
33,000 c’mers p.a.
- See more at: http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ZJVLo.dpuf