Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2015

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2015

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Passenger wrote:
sn26567 wrote:SN1255 BRU-DKR (A330-300 OO-SFM) seems to be diverting to Las Palmas de Gran Canaria right now. SN1205 (also BRU-DKR, A330-300 OO-SFO) was flying right above SN1255 at the same time...

Edit! SN1255 landed at LPA.
Meanwhile, OO-SFM continues her journey - so probably a medical divertion?
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/oo-sfm/
SFM was caught by this photographer during its (possibly first ever?) visit to LPA.
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_P ... ?id=574419

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airazurxtror wrote:Le départ pourra s’effectuer une fois que l’équipage aura respecté le temps de repos imposé
It seems to me that the crew has had a lot of time to rest!

And what about the replacement plane that was allegedly sent from Lisbon via Brussels to Miami?
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Meanwhile, the battle for a percentage on the compensation and/or indemnity is open: Claim It versus Test-Aankoop/Test-Achats...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jaf518

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http://www.lesoir.be/801671/article/act ... re-retarde
Les quelque 200 passagers belges coincés à Miami ont encore vu leur retour retardé. L’avion qui doit les ramener en Belgique devait finalement décoller dimanche à 17 heures (heure belge) mais le départ a une nouvelle fois été reporté en raison d’un malentendu avec un agent d’entretien, a indiqué le porte-parole de Jetair. Le check-in était cependant en cours peu après 18h00 HB.

More delay ... check-in in progress at 18.00 Belgian time.
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A shortwhile ago, BrusselsAirport.be has amended the arrival time into 04h10 a.m.

(this afternoon, arrival was announced as 01.05 a.m.)
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sn26567 wrote: It seems to me that the crew has had a lot of time to rest!
And what about the replacement plane that was allegedly sent from Lisbon via Brussels to Miami?
Never believe the explanations given by the touroperator or the airline in such a case. Never, never. Especially the explanations given on the TV by the spokespersons - particularly those given by the Jetairfly representative (Baptiste van Thomas Cook was a champion also).
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airazurxtror wrote:
sn26567 wrote: It seems to me that the crew has had a lot of time to rest!
And what about the replacement plane that was allegedly sent from Lisbon via Brussels to Miami?
Never believe the explanations given by the touroperator or the airline in such a case. Never, never. Especially the explanations given on the TV by the spokespersons - particularly those given by the Jetairfly representative (Baptiste van Thomas Cook was a champion also).
Never never? I don't agree with that. Some airlines, like Brussels Airlines, have a company policy to tell the passengers what's going on, even if that has expensive consequences like having to pay the indemnity as per EU rule 261/2004.

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Miami Airport departures web page doesn't help a lot. It says Jetairfly 508 Now 12:30p (i.e. 18:30 CET), which already past since 2 hours...

http://webvids.miami-airport.com/webfids/

Gate F19, if anyone is interested...
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Some 50 minutes ago, one passenger tweeted that they were indeed at gate F19 and that they expected departure in about half an hour. Meaning : they should be airborne about right now.

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Some will probably not believe it, but JAF-518 just took off from Miami...

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To AMS and estimated in BRU at 7.15 am

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And right now: EAT 7.50 am BRU

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Boeing767copilot wrote:To AMS and estimated in BRU at 7.15 am
Flightradar24 already says JAF-518 is MIA-BRU

http://www.flightradar24.com/JAF518/597c752

http://www.flightradar24.com/JAF518/

Meanwhile, OO-JAP is cruising at 33,000ft, so looks normal.

Just wondering when Brussels Airport will amend the 04h10 a.m. into the real ETA.

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Boeing767copilot wrote:To AMS and estimated in BRU at 7.15 am
ETA BRU 6:16 (after leaving MIA at 3:15p LT or 21:15 CET)
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sn26567 wrote:
Boeing767copilot wrote:To AMS and estimated in BRU at 7.15 am
ETA BRU 6:16 (after leaving MIA at 3:15p LT or 21:15 CET)
Now set for 05h49.

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sn26567 wrote:And what about the replacement plane that was allegedly sent from Lisbon via Brussels to Miami?
EuroAtlantic Boeing 767-300ER CS-TFT is not a replacement aircraft. It currently operates flight JAF624 (Miami-Orlando-Amsterdam) that would normally have been operated by OO-JAP if the latter had been on-time.
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Passenger wrote: Never never? I don't agree with that. Some airlines, like Brussels Airlines, have a company policy to tell the passengers what's going on, even if that has expensive consequences like having to pay the indemnity as per EU rule 261/2004.
You mean they would admit both pilots felt asleep instead of making up a redicoulous story about callsigns?

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Lysexpat wrote:
Passenger wrote: Never never? I don't agree with that. Some airlines, like Brussels Airlines, have a company policy to tell the passengers what's going on, even if that has expensive consequences like having to pay the indemnity as per EU rule 261/2004.
You mean they would admit both pilots felt asleep instead of making up a redicoulous story about callsigns?
I thought we were talking here about airlines trying to avoid the legal compensation in case of a delay.
A better example then yours above would be that hit-and-run accident from a low cost airliner in Barcelona few years ago, who hit another airliner on the taxiway but continued the journey, ignoring remarks from several paqssengers, probably afraid of loosing too much time.

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http://www.lesoir.be/801895/article/act ... -bruxelles
Les 200 touristes belges qui sont restés coincés 45 heures dans la zone de transit de l’aéroport de Miami en raison d’un avion défectueux de Jetair, ont finalement atterri lundi matin, vers 06H30, sur le tarmac de Bruxelles, a confirmé un porte-parole de Jetair, Hans Vanhaelemeesch. Jetair a ouvert une enquête afin d’éviter de telles situations à l’avenir.

The Jetairfly pax eventually landed at BRU around 06.30 this morning.

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150221_01541794

'In deze uitzonderlijke situatie voorzien wij voor de reizigers een automatische compensatie van 600 euro per persoon. Zij hoeven hiervoor zelf geen initiatief te nemen.

Reizigers die door deze vertraging extra kosten hebben moeten maken, kunnen hun kostennota indienen bij de naverkoopdienst', aldus Hans Vanhaelemeesch, de woordvoerder van Jetair.
They are facing an uphill struggle, I think !

De passagiers klagen over de omstandigheden waarin ze moesten wachten. Gezinnen met kinderen en ouderen moesten 46 uur doorbrengen in de transitzone van de luchthaven, en kregen slechts één maaltijd per dag aangeboden. 'Kinderen, ouderen,...sommigen moesten blijven slapen op de grond', zegt een misnoegde reiziger op Radio 1.

De reizigers klagen ook het gebrek aan informatie aan. 'Dit was niet normaal. Qua informatie overbrengen, was dit beneden alle peil', vertelde een reiziger aan Radio 1.
'We hebben vaak uren moeten wachten zonder informatie', zei de Vlaamse Kelly De Keersgieter aan VTM Nieuws. 'We kregen niemand van Jetair te zien.'
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airazurxtror wrote:http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150221_01541794

'In deze uitzonderlijke situatie voorzien wij voor de reizigers een automatische compensatie van 600 euro per persoon. Zij hoeven hiervoor zelf geen initiatief te nemen.

Reizigers die door deze vertraging extra kosten hebben moeten maken, kunnen hun kostennota indienen bij de naverkoopdienst', aldus Hans Vanhaelemeesch, de woordvoerder van Jetair.
All passengers will receive the 600 € p/p compensation from Jetairfly, direct. They don't have to take legal action for it.

Jetairfly will also reimburse additional costs, caused by the delay. These costs will be checked by Jetair's after sales department.

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