Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2015

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2015

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Why wouldn't it be a decision from Ryanair? That sentence does not state the airport forbid them to disembark. It states they where forbidden to do so, but it doesn't say who gave the order. It might as well have been Ryanair ops that ordered to stay on board as the situation in CRL was about to become normal again.

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sean1982 wrote:
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Stij wrote:Imagine some want to disembark, others not, sorting out the luggage etc. everybody is much faster at home if all stay on board...
I agree with FR's decision.
Yes, but the article said that it was not Ryanair's decision, but from the airport: ...On n’avait pas le droit de sortir car, apparemment, ils n’avaient pas reçu l’autorisation de nous faire sortir à Zaventem…", nous a confié Caroline Bordecq, une de nos journalistes présente dans l’avion en provenance de Marseille...
It doesnt say that the airport didnt give authorisation to do so. Airports dont make such decisions, airline operations departements do. The fact that 1 airplane did disembark proves this
Right. So the airline took the decision not to deboard at BRU, but the crew told the passengers that Brussels Airport didn't allowed them to deboard. Unless, of course, the journalist is wrong with "ils n’avaient pas reçu l’autorisation". Ryanair = decision, Brussels Airport = authorisation.

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Sorry, what?
In language there is no difference made between the decision from an official organ or a private company. There is just more than one way to say something.

Ryanair can give authorization as well as the airport. It is just a way to say they are allowing something, whether it is a private company or a government body. Besides the airport is also a private company.

That is why you see so many signs 'authorized personnel only' in any closed off section of any company.

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SAS SK-2591 Stockholm-Brussels (B737-700 SE-REZ) diverted to Maastricht

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/fligh ... 1/#713c620

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Why would they do that being so close to BRU?

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Due to the strike of Aviapartner this afternoon?


http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/regio ... /1.2411867

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A Thomas Cook B752 has a hydraulic failure near Brussels on Aug 9th 2015

A Thomas Cook Boeing 757-200, registration G-FCLI performing flight MT-3526 from London Gatwick,EN (UK) to Antalya (Turkey), was enroute at FL360 about 20nm southeast of Brussels (Belgium) when the crew reported a hydraulic failure and decided to return to Gatwick.

A replacement Hifly Airbus A330-200 registration CS-TQP reached Antalya with a delay of 7:45 hours.

Full report from The Aviation Herald: http://avherald.com/h?article=48a9e2dc&opt=0
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Safety Investigation Report from the Belgian AAIU about a pushback incident with a US Airways B757-200 on 24th November 2013 (10h46 local) at Brussels Airport:

pdf 787 kB:
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/nl/binari ... 247115.pdf

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SN204/13AUG was ready to land on 07L, but then pulled up again and went around for a 25R landing.
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Seems the ceiling is too low for the VOR/DME approach on 07L.
The missed approach point is 4.4 NM from BUB where the a/c altitude should be 660 ft. Ceiling at EBBR is BKN 400' at the moment....
Seems ILS 25R with tailwind was preferable to VOR/DME 07L

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Indeed. BRU is without a good option to land for the moment.
They report the ceiling below the minima for RWY07L as BKN004, but it is in fact OVC even; however, BRU never ever uses OVC for some odd reason.
RWY25R is having fairly strong tailwinds on approach, much higher than those measured on the ground, so definitely not ideal either.
Another example of the poor infrastructure of BRU in case of easterly winds: get ILS and some approach lights on 07L (and 07R).

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After a significant increase in visibility, 07L is once again in use for both Departures and Arrivals.
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tolipanebas wrote: Another example of the poor infrastructure of BRU in case of easterly winds: get ILS and some approach lights on 07L (and 07R).
Just publish an RNAV, much cheaper and quicker than installing an ILS.

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... plus easier (and thus again less expensive) on maintenance.
But hadn't RNAV approaches been announced anyway, beginning with EBAW?

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Incident with a drone on A320 OO-SNB near Tel Aviv on 10 Aug 2015

Brussels Airlines flight SN3289 from Brussels, Belgium was involved in an airprox incident involving a drone near Tel Aviv, Israel.

The aircraft, an Airbus A320, was flying a runway 30 RNAV GNSS approach to Tel Aviv-Ben Gurion Airport (TLV) at the time of the incident. It was descending from 4500 feet to 2500 feet on the downwind leg of the approach when at an altitude of 4000 feet, 2 miles past the REBDO waypoint, a black/blue quadcopter was observed by the crew. The drone passed from right to left at the same altitude, at a distance of about 100 meters.

The approach was continued and a safe landing was made.

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=178566
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Normally, I'd claim that these aircraft are not drones, but UAVs... However, seeing the location of this incident, it might as well have been an actual drone. ;)
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There were some diversions and a lot of delays at Brussels Airport tonight:

19h51 : "...As (un)loading of aircraft & other activities on the apron are paused when there's risk of lightning strike, delays might be expected..."

20h38 : "...Lightning strike alert has been revoked and operations are now resuming..."

Comment by sn26567: see list of diversions in this topic: https://www.aviation24.be/forums/viewtopic ... 21&t=56763

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No airport is involved, but "Abnormality" for sure is correct:

Helicopter OO-153 took off from an industrial area in Kortrijk (Courtrai), but almost immediately had to make an emergency landing on a street nearby. Press reports state that the heli had hit a powerline.

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenland ... rijk.dhtml

http://www.helispot.be/hs/helicopters/detail.asp?id=b4

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sn26567 wrote:A Thomas Cook B752 has a hydraulic failure near Brussels on Aug 9th 2015

A Thomas Cook Boeing 757-200, registration G-FCLI performing flight MT-3526 from London Gatwick,EN (UK) to Antalya (Turkey), was enroute at FL360 about 20nm southeast of Brussels (Belgium) when the crew reported a hydraulic failure and decided to return to Gatwick. A replacement Hifly Airbus A330-200 registration CS-TQP reached Antalya with a delay of 7:45 hours.
Full report from The Aviation Herald: http://avherald.com/h?article=48a9e2dc&opt=0
Seems some Thomas Cook (U.K.) Boeings have a problem with Brussels...

A Thomas Cook Boeing 757-300, registration G-JMAB performing flight MT-1638 from London Gatwick to Hurghada had just reached cruise level 330 about 200nm east of Gatwick Airport and southsoutheast of Brussels (Belgium) when the crew received an abnormal indication and decided to burn off fuel and return to Gatwick Airport. On approach to the airport the aircraft dropped one of the over wing escape slides. The aircraft landed safely back in Gatwick about 2 hours after departure.

Full report from The Aviation Herald, including a link to the British AAIB final report:
http://avherald.com/h?article=47c98ac8&opt=0

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Seems that SN flight IAD - BRU is not arrived this morning in Brussels. Technical?

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