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Another Malaysia Airlines incident...

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Malaysia Airlines is facing difficult times. An accident was narrowly avoided last Tuesday in Australia. Indeed, after flights MH370 and MH17, flight MH136 almost made the headlines of the news. As the plane was about to depart, the pilot received an emergency message warning him that another aircraft was landing. Finally, The Malaysia Boeing steered away from the runway until the Tiger Airways Airbus completed the landing.

This being said, I wonder if news agencies are not exaggerating the magnitude of such incidents...
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Of course they do, that's what their job is about: making as many news items out of nothing...

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sn26567 wrote:This being said, I wonder if news agencies are not exaggerating the magnitude of such incidents...
Really? ;-)

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Although Simon (Aviation Herald) prefers that no full reports are copy/pasted, I want to copy/paste it in full this time because his report makes clear that Malaysia Airlines cannot be blamed at all:

"Incident: Malaysia A333 at Adelaide on Jul 29th 2014, rejected takeoff"

A Malaysia Airlines Airbus A330-300, registration 9M-MTH performing flight MH-136 from Adelaide,SA (Australia) to Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia) with 167 people on board, was accelerating for takeoff from Adelaide's runway 05 when tower cancelled the takeoff clearance. The crew rejected takeoff at low speed and stopped the aircraft on the runway.

Tower apologized that a Tiger Airways Airbus A320 on approach had been too high and too fast on approach and went around, tower wanted to make sure the A330 didn't climb underneath the go-around and explained that takeoff clearance occurred when the A320 was about 5nm out, sufficient space for the departure, but was still maintaining 200 knots.

According to radar data a Tiger Airways Airbus A320-200, registration VH-VNC performing flight TT-449 from Melbourne,VI to Adelaide,SA (Australia), was on a 6nm final to runway 05 descending through 2300 feet MSL at 170 knots over ground, the aircraft went around from below 1250 feet MSL. The aircraft landed safely on its second approach to runway 05 about 12 minutes later.

The crew of the A330 decided to return to the holding point of runway 05, departed about 25 minutes after rejecting takeoff and reached Kuala Lumpur with a delay of 10 minutes.

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http://avherald.com/h?article=4780ac66&opt=0

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Since when is a low speed RTO a reason for a topic? :roll:

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sean1982 wrote:Since when is a low speed RTO a reason for a topic?
Actually Sean, one source "The New Straits Times" has sent their article to other news sites around the world, so I think it's good for Malaysia Airlines that this "near crash" (cfr. articles in HLN.be and De Telegraaf) can be cleared here as a non-event indeed.

De Telegraaf (NL)
http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2291 ... amp__.html

Het Laatste Nieuws : 115.000 hits so far for this article:
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/30080/Verdwene ... ramp.dhtml

Once again : I think it's good to have this as a topic here, because the press has made it "top news" already. Passengers who are about to take a Malaysian Airlines flight will be happy to read here what happened.

These are the two articles on New Straits Times (Malaysia) that made world headlines:

http://www.nst.com.my/node/18374

and

http://www.nst.com.my/node/18602

(edited : links added)

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The sensationalism of the press is shamefull. These kind of events probably happen once a day around the world.

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As soon as the same company has more than one incident in the media, we like to see patternes in that. From that moment, every hickup that normale would not merit any media attention, gains their interest. We have seen it with the introduction of the A380 and the B787, but also withthe incidents at Qantas last year. On a local scale it was seen in our own media a few years ago after a number of minor incidents with whister jets of SN and the 767 of JAF. Once you're there, the slightest hickup gets news value.
Not because journalists think different than you and me, but because the audience thinks like that. The content of news stories is very much a matter of offer and demand.
Companies that get into this situation, can have a hard time getting out again.

If and how Malaysian will survive the two tragic events of the past months is yet another matter. Either of these incidents could have happened to any airline, are almost inconceivable and probably - investigations take years - could not have been avoided and are not their fault. Yet they have a huge impact on MAS passengers' propensity to travel with them and lead to massive annulations and reduced sales. On top of the tragedie of both accidents themselves, it is a communications nightmare to survive this. Even if they do, it will take many years before the airline is back where it was before the accidents. In fact this is silly. I would not hesitate a second to fly AMS-kUL with them today. Would you'

I have very fond personal memories of Malaysian at Brussels Airport in the early 90's. Even today, I think there is not another airline I flew more miles with. The day after my wedding, we took off on honeymoon on the very last flight of Malaysian from Brussels in October 1995.

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And another one:

MH-198 had to circle three hours (*) after take off from Kuala Lumpur:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2307 ... nes__.html

(*) when De Telegraaf says "three hours", they usually mean "half an hour"

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As I heard in Australia from a fellow av enthusiast: "the more things happen with Malaysian, the easier it gets for us sane people to take cheap flight with one of the safest airlines in the world. Cause, as said, MH370 and MH17 could have happened to every airline."

On that side note. How are their fares doing actually?

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Treeper wrote: How are their fares doing actually?
They were cheap for a while, many tickets were half price. But the prices are normal again, if not expensive. They gave away free tickets, with that "bucket list" (things to do before you die) promotion. They have it difficult not only because of the 2 accidents, but also because of fierce competition with Air Asia X, who also offered tickets for half price (Markdown Festival promotion).

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https://twitter.com/9GAGTweets/status/4 ... 40/photo/1

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Passenger wrote:And another one:

MH-198 had to circle three hours (*) after take off from Kuala Lumpur
Reported by The Aviation Herald: http://avherald.com/h?article=47a50861&opt=0

They really circled for 3 hours to burn fuel after an autopilot failure.
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