Ryanair in 2014

[Inquirer]

Ooooh shame
Whatever way you turn it, it was at least 100€ more expensive. Plain and simple NOT cheaper like you claimed.

No it's not and contrary to you, I am not caught redhanded spinning the truth by deliberately booking in an all-in service class (pieces of luggage, newspaper, alcoholic drinks and a hot meal) AND quoting on the most expensive of the 3 daily flights on top. :clap:

Are we systematically going to compare the soon to be business oriented new fares of ryanair with the 69 euro tickets from SN from September too? I hope not, because then this forum will really sink to new depths! Apples to apples, please!

As others pointed out already before, cheaper alternatives to ryanair ARE clearly available from BRU, even on Bruair much to your surprise it seems and I admit much to my surprise too.
It's yet another proof ryanair is far from the ultra-low priced airways they once used to be so people better look around before they book. Luckily there is ample choice these days.

[sean1982]

Yeah right, we all know you think your analysis are always spot on
Thats why traffic grew 4% and thats why FR has raised its profit expectations for this year and that's why earnings have doubled.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-2 ... ouble.html

And wasnt easyjet firmly in the driver seat?
http://www.theguardian.com/business/mar ... ftse-lower

[convair]

Interesting find.

Apparently due to a difference in the way they add credit card charges across the different versions of the website; it should soon be fixed by raising the prices on the Dutch version to those of the French one.

BTW- those are some quite high fares for those flights, especially given the very elementary product only!
Not only vueling or Brussels Airlines are cheaper, but even Swiss is cheaper via ZRH if these are one-way price quotes?

SN cheaper??
For the same flight on the same day with the same basic service they charge 434€
No bias at all

One way or return?

I believe sean1982 compared the cost of a one-way FR flight with that of a return SN flight.
I'm willing to accept it was by mistake though.

[sean1982]

Euhm no, it was one way

[airazurxtror]

Are we systematically going to compare the soon to be business oriented new fares of ryanair with the 69 euro tickets from SN from September too? I hope not, because then this forum will really sink to new depths! Apples to apples, please!

The only SN 69 euros fare today available on their website is to Basel (!), departure 1 or 5/9, return on 8/9.
Yes, I forgot, these fares are to be published only from mi-August, in order to give time to adjust, for the travel agents and the competitors. The fact that they are "return fares" suggest that there could be a minimum stay. We'll have to wait and see ...
(In the meantime, I have just booked a Charleroi-Marseille return, mid-september, for 40 euros, by Ryanair).

[Inquirer]

Yeah right, we all know you think your analysis are always spot on
Thats why traffic grew 4% and thats why FR has raised its profit expectations for this year and that's why earnings have doubled.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-2 ... ouble.html

And wasnt easyjet firmly in the driver seat?
http://www.theguardian.com/business/mar ... ftse-lower

In case you didn't fully notice what is happening to your airline, it's because management is doing pretty much exactly what many analists have been telling it should do for over a year now: become like all the rest, and charge like all the rest for it too.
Ryanair is copying from easyjet faster than you can post all the product improvement press releases here.
Or are you still buying all the PR talk it's really just to 'offer more for the same amount of money'?
Come on, you're way smarter than that, aren't you? You must have noticed prices have increased too!

[airazurxtror]

Ryanair might have raised its fares, but it's still often amongst the cheapest available.
I wanted to do a Brussels-Rome return on 11 december.

Ryanair : 57,10 euros (FCO : in at 11.10 - out at 20.15 : 9h05 on site)
Vueling : 82,36 euros (11.50-18.00: 6h10)
Alitalia : 389,72 euros (09.05-21.10 : 12h05)
Brussels Airlines : 399,72 euros (09.50-17.55 : 8h05)

(Im)patiently awaiting the 69 euros fares promised by SN !
(from 399 to 69, that's not a small cut - one has to hand it to Gustin !)

[Boeing767copilot]

Just 1 (one) 69 promotion: Basel

http://www.brusselsairlines.com/nl-be/p ... tab-europe

[Passenger]

Ryanair might have raised its fares, but it's still often amongst the cheapest available.
I wanted to do a Brussels-Rome return on 11 december.
Ryanair : 57,10 euros (FCO : in at 11.10 - out at 20.15 : 9h05 on site)
Vueling : 82,36 euros (11.50-18.00: 6h10)
Alitalia : 389,72 euros (09.05-21.10 : 12h05)
Brussels Airlines : 399,72 euros (09.50-17.55 : 8h05)

Yep. I also wanted to book a short trip to Rome around that time, and I've found this:
out Mon 8 Dec (SN3175),
in Thu 11 Dec (SN3182)
Brussels Airlines : return all in 99,72 euros (b.light)

And this includes a suitcase, preseating ànd a friendly smile at the check-in

[airazurxtror]

out Mon 8 Dec (SN3175),
in Thu 11 Dec (SN3182)
Brussels Airlines : return all in 99,72 euros (b.light)
And this includes a suitcase, preseating ànd a friendly smile at the check-in

63,22 euros by Ryanair at these dates (73,22 with preseating)
And on-line check-in.

[airazurxtror]

Ryanair today (6 Aug) released July traffic statistics as follows:
•Traffic grew by 300,000 to 9.15m customers (up 4%)
•Load factor increased 3% points from 88% to 91%
•Rolling annual traffic rose to a record 83m customers (up 4%).

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ?market=ie

[sn26567]

The first RyanAir plane, an Embraer 110 Bandeirante, flew from Waterford to London Gatwick in 1985. Not sure it was an LCC at that time...

[RoMax]

The first RyanAir plane, an Embraer 110 Bandeirante, flew from Waterford to London Gatwick in 1985. Not sure it was an LCC at that time...

Ryanair did not launch as an LCC, it was in the early 1990's (1990 or 1991) when MOL joined the company that they started to transform to an LCC, especially after MOL's visit to Southwest. It was the deregulation of the European market which started in 1992 that really launched FR as the leading LCC airline in Europe (at that time the only one, but as they started with it so early, they had a major headstart).

[airazurxtror]

Ryanair was born on 28 November 1985; the three founders were Christy Ryan -who gave his name to the company - with two friends : Tony Ryan and Liam Lonergan. The only aircraft was a fifteen-seater Bandeirante.
Tony Ryan was running the show at Ryanair when Michael O'Leary became his personal assistant in 1988. Ryanir was by then a money pit, Aer Lingus doing its utmost to sink it, with the help of the Irish government. O'Leary wanted to close Ryanair as hopeless, but Tony Ryan remained determined to keep it in business. He secured the Dublin-Stansted route, much to the furor of Aer Lingus and the trade unions. O'leary negociated a good deal with Stansted airport; he hired non-unionised Romanian pilots who flew Rombac 1-11 as he began to cut the costs - and he went to see Herb Kelleher at Southwest.
Kelleher said that after saying goodbye to O'Leary he told Colleen Barrett : "That guy is a winner".
Indeed ...

[Passenger]

And this is Ryanair 2014 :

Last Monday, a Ryanair flight from Brindisi to Eindhoven was denied to land there because the airfield was temporary closed: a C-130 repatriation flight with remains of MH-17 victims was going to land, coming from Charkov (Ukrain). The Ryanair pilot was furious about that, and made that clear to ATC in quite strong words.

The Dutch department of Transport stated that a notam was sent out to all airlines serving Eindhoven to advise them about the temporary closure of EIN.

Ryanair stated (source: Omroep Brabant, see link below) that the airfield would be closed as from 15h45, and that the aircraft was on approach at 15h40.

The flight diverted to Weeze, and waited there till Eindhoven was open again (at 17h00).

Former pilot René Veldhuizen was listening to the conversation, and he has put the audio on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92GBT_HknHY



Original source for this story is Dutch radio station Omroep Brabant. Their url anables a direct link, so copy/paste it into your browser:

omroepbrabant.nl/?news/215112402/‘This+is+unacceptable!’+Piloot+Ryanair+boos+om+ceremonie+MH17-slachtoffers+Eindhoven.aspx

[sn26567]

And this is Ryanair 2014 :

Last Monday, a Ryanair flight from Brindisi to Eindhoven was denied to land there because the airfield was temporary closed

This was discussed extensively in a separate topic: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=54148

[airazurxtror]

Scheduled Passengers Carried - International - 2013
These tables have been extracted from WATS 58th edition.

Rank Airline Thousands
1 Ryanair 81,395
2 easyJet 52,787
3 Lufthansa 50,739
4 Emirates 43,335
5 British Airways 33,803
6 Air France 33,118
7 Turkish Airlines 27,407
8 KLM 26,581
9 United Airlines 25,002
10 Delta Air Lines 23,086

Total (International + Domestic)

Rank Airline Thousands
1 Delta Air Lines 120,636
2 Southwest Airlines 115,323
3 China Southern Airlines 91,504
4 United Airlines 90,161
5 American Airlines 86,823
6 Ryanair 81,395
7 Lufthansa 63,273
8 China Eastern Airlines 62,653
9 easyJet 58,410
10 US Airways 56,708


http://www.iata.org/publications/pages/ ... rried.aspx

[shockcooling]

Sorry, but I fail to understand the above tables completely. So apparently the total passengers international seems to be exactly the same as international + domestic together. Isn't that weird, considering Ryanair has numerous domestic flights in their network...?

[Inquirer]

The metric itself it pretty pointless too, as you need to multiply the number of passengers times their distance flown to get a good idea of the size of the airline.

[convair]

Within Ireland?