Out of topic! Brussels Airlines is not a publicly quoted company, so why should it make its results public? I'm sure the shareholders (the ones who need to know the results) are well informed.airazurxtror wrote:Ryanair, easyJet and Norwegian, for instance, regularly publicize their quarterly results on their website.
It's easy to follow their evolution, and to comment/criticize/rejoice at the first drop in profit.
Brussels Airlines quarterly results are much more difficult to find (perhaps a good thing for them).
Ryanair in 2014
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André
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Well the stockmarket doesn't share the negative feeling: shares up 8% today, the experts think is good news.
Analists grade Ryanair as outperform.
Analists grade Ryanair as outperform.
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Of course: RYR are posting financial figures fully in line with their previously twice adjusted guidance AND shareholders are very relieved there is a plan to stop the erosion of yields.
The markets have already long factored in all what has been posted above, while some around here obviously still haven't and are even still questioning whether it is correct or not!
Since you like to look at the stock markets for reference on who's doing well: compare the evolution of shares from EZY to those of RYR over the past 18 months and see just why RYR had to react.
This is the graph comparing shareprice evolution of RYR (blue) vs that of EZY (red) over the past 2 years, so you can see the widening gap between the 2 for yourself which started to exist in Spring 2012 and really widened spectacularly ever since the start of 2013.
(click on the graph to see the last 6 months too, showing an even wider spread than ever before)
The markets have already long factored in all what has been posted above, while some around here obviously still haven't and are even still questioning whether it is correct or not!
Since you like to look at the stock markets for reference on who's doing well: compare the evolution of shares from EZY to those of RYR over the past 18 months and see just why RYR had to react.
This is the graph comparing shareprice evolution of RYR (blue) vs that of EZY (red) over the past 2 years, so you can see the widening gap between the 2 for yourself which started to exist in Spring 2012 and really widened spectacularly ever since the start of 2013.
(click on the graph to see the last 6 months too, showing an even wider spread than ever before)
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http://www.ryanair.com/en/news/ryanair- ... -customers
Ryanair today (6 Feb) released its January traffic statistics as follows:
•Traffic grew to 4.6m customers (up 5%)
•Load factor unchanged at 71%.
•Annual traffic to Jan 2014 rose to 81.6m customers (up 3%).
All Ryanair customers may – with immediate effect – use their PEDs (including tablets, smartphones, e-readers and MP3 players) for the entire duration of their flight, once these devices are switched to ‘flight mode’ and all safety demos/briefings are observed.
Ryanair today (6 Feb) released its January traffic statistics as follows:
•Traffic grew to 4.6m customers (up 5%)
•Load factor unchanged at 71%.
•Annual traffic to Jan 2014 rose to 81.6m customers (up 3%).
All Ryanair customers may – with immediate effect – use their PEDs (including tablets, smartphones, e-readers and MP3 players) for the entire duration of their flight, once these devices are switched to ‘flight mode’ and all safety demos/briefings are observed.
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This is indeed the implementation of a decision (from 9th Dec 2013) from EASA (the Aviation Safety Agency of the European Union):airazurxtror wrote:All Ryanair customers may – with immediate effect – use their PEDs (including tablets, smartphones, e-readers and MP3 players) for the entire duration of their flight, once these devices are switched to ‘flight mode’ and all safety demos/briefings are observed.
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-1218_en.htm
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http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/ ... ummer.html
O’Leary said: “We are in active negotiations with a number of GDS suppliers, and hope, subject to the successful conclusion of these discussions and IT integration issues, that Ryanair’s low fares and comprehensive route network will appear in one or more GDS channels by mid-year.
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About 50% of European carriers are expected to permit the gate-to-gate use of personal electronic devices (PEDs) before the end of the year, wireless IFE provider and IT specialist Lufthansa Systems says.airazurxtror wrote:All Ryanair customers may – with immediate effect – use their PEDs (including tablets, smartphones, e-readers and MP3 players) for the entire duration of their flight, once these devices are switched to ‘flight mode’ and all safety demos/briefings are observed.
http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/2014/0 ... learances/
André
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Just to clarify, the EU doesn't force airlines to implement this decision!Passenger wrote:This is indeed the implementation of a decision (from 9th Dec 2013) from EASA (the Aviation Safety Agency of the European Union):airazurxtror wrote:All Ryanair customers may – with immediate effect – use their PEDs (including tablets, smartphones, e-readers and MP3 players) for the entire duration of their flight, once these devices are switched to ‘flight mode’ and all safety demos/briefings are observed.
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-1218_en.htm
FR is one of the first ones to implement it, which shows they both want to improve the comfort of the passengers and they can react quickly to ever changing market.
I am being told that FR and EZY are thinking about "offering" WIFI on board by the end of next year at the latest.
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Management at Ryanair have now confirmed that a refurbishment of the cabin will be a fact, that WiFi onboard is under review at the moment and that Long haul plans are back on the table.
http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/2014/0 ... uct-plans/
http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/2014/0 ... uct-plans/
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LOL @ your comment.RoMax wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjfmjznXksU
A calm, friendly MOL talking to its customers instead of yelling new ideas to the media, well it's a nice change for sure! I can only welcome their change in customer service.
I wonder if this change (as well as the 2d bag allowed, which I really don't understand since most of the flights are so loaded that a lot of hand-luggage end up in the hold !) is due to the losses FR has experienced last year...
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first of all, FR hasn't experienced any losses net profit is still forecast as 510 million EUR.
Secondly, handluggage rarely gets offloaded ....
Secondly, handluggage rarely gets offloaded ....
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The second bag (35x20x20) is meant to be put "under the seat in front of you".stefanel wrote: (as well as the 2d bag allowed, which I really don't understand since most of the flights are so loaded that a lot of hand-luggage end up in the hold !)
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Now now... That's bending the truth a fair bit too much, IMHO.sean1982 wrote:first of all, FR hasn't experienced any losses net profit is still forecast as 510 million.
Ryanair is booking losses over this winter; it's no longer just an opinion, it's a hard fact now.
By expanding the investors horizon, and including past profits you can indeed still wipe them away, but the forward looking guidance isn't brilliant, hence the need for urgent product change to justify significantly higher fares.
Simply keeping on doing the same would not guarantee a return to profitability next year as other far more friendly airlines are putting too much price pressure on ryanairs current product with their popular high value for money offerings, hence ryanair copying them.
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If a forecast 510 million profit is "not brilliant", how will you call the 20-30 million loss that an airline not far from here is expected to post this year ?Inquirer wrote:but the forward looking guidance isn't brilliant,sean1982 wrote:first of all, FR hasn't experienced any losses net profit is still forecast as 510 million.
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Let me just clarify where this came from. You wrote this:
Secondly, I had asked the moderator twice to remove this post, which was not even replied to, naturally my comments where removed instantly.
I have really had it: all I came here to do was to share my passion for my job, my employer and mostly my love for aviation in general and I was met with a barrage of lies, threats and insults (publicly and PM), favouritism by the moderator, twisting of words and facts by people who call themselves "experts"
I was warned by former Sabena pilots about the culture of arrogance that is present in SN (and its supporters apparently) but I never believed this to be true initially.
I Will keep doing what I do best which is to train crew and motivate them to give a friendly and professional service while getting passengers from A to B safely and on time. For all you dreamers out here ... Keep dreaming ... Maybe someday they might come true.
First of all, who are you, who doesn't know me in the slightest, to judge what I would be able to do professionally? What makes you even think that you can publicly make a demeaning statement about me personally (not the first time btw) when you have no clue who I am and what my qualities are?Passenger wrote:Euh, RoMax, I don't think we can expect that someone who works for Ryanair is going to tell us how Brussels Airlines can improve its Business ClassRoMax wrote:I would still like to see arguments from your side on why you would think a real business class in Europe would work.sean1982 wrote:Sure, as long as they are not lies or outdated stuff why not.
Secondly, I had asked the moderator twice to remove this post, which was not even replied to, naturally my comments where removed instantly.
I have really had it: all I came here to do was to share my passion for my job, my employer and mostly my love for aviation in general and I was met with a barrage of lies, threats and insults (publicly and PM), favouritism by the moderator, twisting of words and facts by people who call themselves "experts"
I was warned by former Sabena pilots about the culture of arrogance that is present in SN (and its supporters apparently) but I never believed this to be true initially.
I Will keep doing what I do best which is to train crew and motivate them to give a friendly and professional service while getting passengers from A to B safely and on time. For all you dreamers out here ... Keep dreaming ... Maybe someday they might come true.
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I'm sorry I created this thread on 1st January 2014. All I see is feuds, insults, personal attacks.
If people can not listen to each other and try to understand the arguments of others, there is only one solution: close and archive the thread.
Sorry for those who come here to get information and discuss calmly in good faith.
I shall reopen this subject when and only when tempers have cooled down and people are ready to refrain from insults, harsh words and other unacceptable behaviour.
If people can not listen to each other and try to understand the arguments of others, there is only one solution: close and archive the thread.
Sorry for those who come here to get information and discuss calmly in good faith.
I shall reopen this subject when and only when tempers have cooled down and people are ready to refrain from insults, harsh words and other unacceptable behaviour.
André
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To have some more capacity this summer before the new deliveries start (some this year and 50 in 2015)
there will be 2 wetleases in DUB, from a company up north, and 3 or 4 dry leases in STN from flydubai.
there will be 2 wetleases in DUB, from a company up north, and 3 or 4 dry leases in STN from flydubai.
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I just read this article on pilot churn at Ryanair. Apparently, rumour has it that they are faced with high churn amongst their flight crew and churn levels have risen to the level where it is becoming difficult to maintain a healthy training funnel. Ryanair is adressing the problem with floating pilots, calling pilots back from their leave and wet-lease contracts for Stansted based aircraft.
I'm curious to see how they will address the problem in a more structural way. Maybe better working conditions in sight for Ryanair flight crew?
I'm curious to see how they will address the problem in a more structural way. Maybe better working conditions in sight for Ryanair flight crew?
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Mr O'Leary said that Ryanair's advance bookings for the summer season were already 6pc up on last year suggesting it is going to be a bumper year.
However, as a consequence of its move towards being a more customer-friendly airline, he said it will have to spend more on advertising as the airline will no longer rely on generating free publicity by him being an "annoying prat".
While last year Ryanair had spent just €1m on advertising throughout Europe this year its net advertising spend would be €35m. "We need a more sophisticated image than me running around being a cheeky chappy or an annoying prat," he said.
Mr O'Leary said that "being savages" for free publicity worked in newer markets such as Italy where Ryanair was still breaking through, but just annoyed people in its more mature markets.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fl ... 41838.html
However, as a consequence of its move towards being a more customer-friendly airline, he said it will have to spend more on advertising as the airline will no longer rely on generating free publicity by him being an "annoying prat".
While last year Ryanair had spent just €1m on advertising throughout Europe this year its net advertising spend would be €35m. "We need a more sophisticated image than me running around being a cheeky chappy or an annoying prat," he said.
Mr O'Leary said that "being savages" for free publicity worked in newer markets such as Italy where Ryanair was still breaking through, but just annoyed people in its more mature markets.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fl ... 41838.html
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That's one practical example of the hidden costs associated with their new strategy, something I and others have been warning for. What is most worrying with it, is that many of these costs are to be carried not simply by a new entity aimed at the new market segment aimed for, but by the whole of Ryanair as they have opted not to create a separate brand.
In this particular example, it means for instance they will spend roughly 1 euro per return ticket on advertising alone. Whereas that may not sound much on their expensive 200 euro return tickets from BRU, it makes a huge difference to the bottom line of those 30 euro return tickets from CRL which are still the main chunk of their business.
Flanker has previously highlighted other costs too which risk being carried over from one market segment to the other, all of with need to be offset against either an eroded profit, or higher fares, both of which are weakening their strength in what is still their core business, i.e. the very price sensitive customer.
It shows why it's not such a good idea to launch business flights under the same brand as ultra-low cost flights, but given the urgency involved, they probably didn't have any other option but to accept all these extra costs as they were being left behind by their immediate competitors and simply couldn't risk falling back even further.
In this particular example, it means for instance they will spend roughly 1 euro per return ticket on advertising alone. Whereas that may not sound much on their expensive 200 euro return tickets from BRU, it makes a huge difference to the bottom line of those 30 euro return tickets from CRL which are still the main chunk of their business.
Flanker has previously highlighted other costs too which risk being carried over from one market segment to the other, all of with need to be offset against either an eroded profit, or higher fares, both of which are weakening their strength in what is still their core business, i.e. the very price sensitive customer.
It shows why it's not such a good idea to launch business flights under the same brand as ultra-low cost flights, but given the urgency involved, they probably didn't have any other option but to accept all these extra costs as they were being left behind by their immediate competitors and simply couldn't risk falling back even further.