No, the negotiations I have with my employer about my working conditions are none of your businessAir Key West wrote:OK. Can you give us a few examples ?sean1982 wrote:I have in the past and will in the future said/say no to a lot of things and have refused stuff what has always been excepted by my employer
As a safety instructor I am well aware about the primary job of a flight crew member. As an active crewmember I also had my fair share of missed approaches. Passengers always have this impression of it being anextremely difficult and challenging manoeuvre, but ask any pilot and they will confirm it's quite standard.Air Key West wrote:Anyway, people who are responsible for the lifes of (hundreds) of other people MUST be able to do their job well rested and in good conditions. Absence of tiredness and undue stress are two of many pre-requisites for pilots being able to fly us (including you) safely to our destination (especially when the flying gets rough ;
how many aborted landings have you had because of extremely bad weather or ATC mistakes, for instance ? I have experienced a few and on two occasions at least I was EXTREMELY impressed how the pilots handled them). When you've witnessed this a number of times, you can only admit that pilots deserve good pay and working conditions. Failing to admit that is just bad faith.
I've got news for you, too : there are A LOT of people who work A LOT LESS harder than pilots for A LOT MORE money....and they don't have the lifes of (hundreds) of people (including yours) in their hands.sean1982 wrote:I've got news for you: there are A LOT of people who work A LOT harder than most pilots for A LOT less money
Pilots (and flight attendants btw, too, since the latter are primarely there for the pax safety, even if MOL keeps them busy as salespersons during most of the flight time) deserve more than average remuneration for all the reasons fcw has stated here (and which I will not repeat ; re-read them with your glasses on).
As to hurting the airline's image : many airlines have been faced with strikes (LH, forgot them ? Easyjet in France..., just to name two). OK, b.air unlike LH or EZY, is in a difficult financial situation. The pilot's fault ? No, the management's and shareholders' fault ! And as fcw rightly said, if a lot of pilots left b.air for better "skies", it would cost the airline much more in hiring new pilots. Yes, there might be a lot of young pilots waiting/wanting a job. Only, you seem to forget that you don't fly aircraft safely only with young pilots with little experience. There are certainly (international) standards to comply with (e.g. number of hours flown as f/o before being allowed to become a captain).
Experience is extremely precious and has a price tag to it. But you're too young to understand that.
The point is that flight crew and cabin crew are already extra paid for the responsibilities they have. Compare a pilot's wage to a bus driver or a train driver and see who earns the most. If they are striking for rest than you must mean EXTRA rest. Maybe you don't know that there is a very strict FTL scheme in Europe which ensures that all crew members are entitled to a satisfactory amount of rest in order to perform their duties.
As for experience, that's not directly coupled to age. I've had the pleasure to fly with some extremely competent young captains (30's-40's) and also with some extremely incompetent old ones (50-65).
But you're probably to old to understand that.
