Jet Airways out of Brussels

[lumumba]

Ok thx for the explanation and that is good news.
One of the reason why Delta stopt his Mumbay service could be Jet?!
And that's why maybe Jet could move to Amsterdam ????

[lumumba]

No, it has nothing to do with it. The route was simply not viable. Yields were under severe pressure due to weak demand and fierce competition from the GCC carriers. This is also the main reason why KLM is reluctant to open a Mumbai service of their own, even though they easily can if they wanted to. Currently, KLM flies daily to Delhi where passengers can take a connecting Jet Airways flight to 4 Indian cities: Bengaluru, Chennai, Hyderabad and Mumbai.

THX again
But there yield could drop because 2 carriers in the Benelux it's maybe too much!
Before Jet the Diamond industry use to go with Swiss at least the Indian community .

[Stij]

Good news! For different reasons:

- most important: for everybody who works for 9W in BRU
- for BRU itslef: traffic is traffic
- SN can keep it's focus on Africa

Cheers,

Stij

[DannyVDB]

If confirmed that they would stay for a while, the rumour that was referred to on CAPA that Jet Airways might start Kolkota-Brussels is less weird than we previously thought ...

Cheers,
Danny

[Avnu]

Jet Airways employees have been informed this afternoon that the activities in Brussels aren't sustainable as they are and the hub might be scrapped.

http://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaar ... 9-3085.art

[Stij]

Pfff can't follow anymore...

Or Maybe I do:

To the pax: keep on booking, we're not leaving...
To the employees: look for another job, we're leaving...

Cheers,

Stij

[sean1982]

Seems that no-nonsense sources were nonsens

[Boeing767copilot]

HOLDING STATEMENT

Jet Airways has today started a consultative process with its employees' representative in Brussels to determine future steps regarding its operations at Brussels Airport and informed,its employees accordingly.

Jet Airways set up its Brussels gateway operations in August 2007. The gateway connected India with North America, and at its peak, connected Bengaluru, Chennai, Mumbai and New Delhi in India with Newark, New York (JFK) and Toronto in North America over Brussels.

The Brussels Gateway was a unique concept for an Indian airline (a gateway outside the carrier's home market). While from an operational standpoint, the gateway was a success, its financial viability has become a challenge primarily due to external factors such as a less favourable global economic climate, especially in Europe, realignment of partnership and alliance structures and fierce price competition.

Despite difficult economic conditions, Jet Airways stayed committed to the Brussels gateway and adapted to the challenging conditions by a number of restructuring measures. However, due to significant changes in the competitive scenario in Brussels and Europe, the gateway has become economically unviable and unsustainable. Jet Airways may therefore have to evaluate redeploying its assets and services.

The consultative process is in line with Jet Airways’ approach of engaging with its employees in a transparent manner regarding key business decisions and is also fully in compliance with Belgian laws. No final decision has been taken with regard to Jet Airways' operations to and from Brussels.

At this time our daily flights between Brussels and New Delhi, Mumbai, Newark and Toronto continue to operate and remain open for sale across all booking channels. Whatever the outcome of the consultative process, Jet Airways will continue to serve the Belgian market and offer connectivity to its guests through a combination of its own operations along with its extensive interline partner network.

On behalf of Jet Airways
Emmanuel Menu

[Stij]

Whatever the outcome of the consultative process, Jet Airways will continue to serve the Belgian market and offer connectivity to its guests through a combination of its own operations along with its extensive interline partner network.

Does this sound like bye bye Toronto and Newark and a codeshare with DL between Brussels and New York JFK while maintaining Mumbai and / or New Delhi?

Cheers,

Stij

[travellover]

Could it be the end of any 9W - NA/EUR/INDIA - hub (BRU) or project (AMS) in Europe ?

[Avnu]

Could it be the end of any 9W - NA/EUR/INDIA - hub (BRU) or project (AMS) in Europe ?

Probably not, a move to AMS is still rather probable, given this phrase in the press release: "Jet Airways may therefore have to evaluate redeploying its assets and services."

[Didymus]

According to De Tijd, Jet Airways is leaving Brussels completely and has started the procedure for collective layoff.

[Passenger]

According to De Tijd, Jet Airways is leaving Brussels completely and has started the procedure for collective layoff.

Contradicted by newspaper De Standaard:

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20151106_01958156

[Passenger]

According to De Tijd, Jet Airways is leaving Brussels completely and has started the procedure for collective layoff.

Contradicted by newspaper De Standaard:

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20151106_01958156

(translation will follow)

[Passenger]

According to De Tijd, Jet Airways is leaving Brussels completely and has started the procedure for collective layoff.

Contradicted by newspaper De Standaard:

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20151106_01958156

De Standaard spoke to union delegate Olivier Van Camp this afternoon:

- nothing has been decided yet

- no announcement was made if it’s a partial or a full retirement

- Jet Airways announces 31th March 2016 as “maybe we close our Belgian office”. But even if that is true, says Van Camp, they are very early with this announcement. The Belgian labour law “Loi Renault Wet” only obliges such announcement 3 months in advance.

- Van Camp thinks that they don’t have recieved the slots yet they want at AMS.

[luchtzak]

According to De Tijd, Jet Airways is leaving Brussels completely and has started the procedure for collective layoff.

Contradicted by newspaper De Standaard:

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20151106_01958156

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20151106_01958155

[Inquirer]

Definitely no good news for the airport if these old rumors and now official intentions turn out to materialize in a real departure in spring next year.
To me, it's yet another proof that only home carriers are truly partners for airports in the long run; foreign airlines are just visitors, even if they run significant operations and they can and will relocalize when it suits them better. In the end, there's nothing holding them here.

It must be said they still sound cautiously openminded to alternatives at present, but that's most likely because of the law Renault which forces them to officially reconsider during 3 months: I think they have definitely made up their mind and are simply going to close BRU.

In De Tijd, they mention BRU is saddened but isn't really surprised by the announcement either.
Also they explicitly state they are currently working with Brussels Airlines and its STAR alliance partners to create alternatives for the routes lost.

I doubt there will be any interest in taking over any of their Indian routes with the 3 Arabian airlines serving BRU, but maybe Toronto, or extra capacity to New York? Is any of this what some people have been hinting at in the b.air topic? As sad as it is, it does create opportunities for the transatlantic Joint Venture of STAR alliance to consolidate their grip on BRU.

[teach]

This is all very confusing. So what exactly were no-nonsense and Atlantis on about just yesterday, both CONFIRMING Jet was not leaving???

[Didymus]

Contradicted by newspaper De Standaard:

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20151106_01958156

De Standaard spoke to union delegate Olivier Van Camp this afternoon:

- nothing has been decided yet

- no announcement was made if it’s a partial or a full retirement

- Jet Airways announces 31th March 2016 as “maybe we close our Belgian office”. But even if that is true, says Van Camp, they are very early with this announcement. The Belgian labour law “Loi Renault Wet” only obliges such announcement 3 months in advance.

- Van Camp thinks that they don’t have recieved the slots yet they want at AMS.

And yet I'm afraid you have to see this "nothing is decided yet" in the framework of the collective layoff: they are obliged to start with an information and negotiation round with the workers. The fact that they are earlier than the Renault law stipulates doesn't have to mean a thing.

After all, De Tijd is, on top of being a business and economic newspaper, the only Flemish newspaper that still specialises in aviation news. I really give more credit to their interpretation of these new developments.

edit: I see Inquirer made a similar analysis, which I agree upon.

edit2: De Tijd has added some comments under the title "Hidden agenda?". Summarised:

• Decision is supposedly not final, yet they are already talking about using the planes elsewhere.
• 9W already has slots for AMS and is negotiating with AF/KL/DL about codeshares.
• Weird that their popular routes to/from BRU are loss making; other airlines have presented excellent results and 9W itself increased its profits.
• The role of EY as shareholder and their strong ties with AF/KL/AZ/DL.

[Jetter]

A while ago I wrote already that Jet Airways will not leave the BRU tarmac that soon and today it is confirmed.

There are many reasons why the top of Jet Airways decided to stay at Brussels Airport. Jet Airways even confirmed that they will offer their seats till after Winter season 2016-2017!!!!

Jet Airways will stay at Brussels Airport with their 4 daily flights.

It's a shame such nonsense is posted on this otherwise informative forum. Opinions and ideas are much appreciated, but I'd consider being a bit more careful before making outright wrong claims based on undisclosed sources.