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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by MD-11forever » 01 Feb 2018, 15:51

Who would have thought that: another order for the 747-8. UPS buys 14 additional 747-8Fs, thereby doubling their 2016 order for the 747-8F:

http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ups/u ... eing-767s/

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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by Bralo20 » 01 Feb 2018, 19:26

MD-11forever wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 15:51
Who would have thought that: another order for the 747-8. UPS buys 14 additional 747-8Fs, thereby doubling their 2016 order for the 747-8F:

http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ups/u ... eing-767s/
The freighter will keep on selling, maybe not now but somewhere in the future when the ageing freighters need replacement. Probably enough to keep the line open but don't expect miracles from the queen. The passenger version however is as good as buried with no foreseeable orders in de future.

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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by RoMax » 01 Feb 2018, 19:42

Boeing already gave up the 747 pax versions, even publicly. But indeed the freighters still have a future, even though at low production rates as such huge full freighters are not flying by the hundreds, especially now that most modern widebodies have such great belly cargo capabilities. But to some extent they still have a use and there is nothing comparable to the 747-8F which can be built factory new, so yes there will still be some years left for that version I'm sure.

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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by Ozzie1969 » 04 Feb 2018, 15:29

What's the reason the pax version has become such a flop?

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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by DeltaWiskey » 04 Feb 2018, 16:28

The 777(X) and to a lesser extent, the A380.

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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by sn26567 » 18 Jul 2018, 19:16

Boeing received a US$3.9 billion contract to build two B747-8s for use as Air Force One by the US president, due to be delivered by December 2024.
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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by MD-11forever » 19 Jul 2018, 08:41

sn26567 wrote:
18 Jul 2018, 19:16
Boeing received a US$3.9 billion contract to build two B747-8s for use as Air Force One by the US president, due to be delivered by December 2024.
I might be wrong, but wasn't it the plan to modify two 747-8s that are already built (for Transaero I think) but that are now gathering dust and sand somewhere in the desert as white tails?
Or has that plan been shelved and will two new aircraft be built?

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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 19 Jul 2018, 11:41

sn26567 wrote:
18 Jul 2018, 19:16
Boeing received a US$3.9 billion contract to build two B747-8s for use as Air Force One by the US president, due to be delivered by December 2024.
Well remember ? :
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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 19 Jul 2018, 11:46

MD-11forever wrote:
19 Jul 2018, 08:41
sn26567 wrote:
18 Jul 2018, 19:16
Boeing received a US$3.9 billion contract to build two B747-8s for use as Air Force One by the US president, due to be delivered by December 2024.
I might be wrong, but wasn't it the plan to modify two 747-8s that are already built (for Transaero I think) but that are now gathering dust and sand somewhere in the desert as white tails?
Or has that plan been shelved and will two new aircraft be built?
You are right according to https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/07 ... paint-job/

Abstract :
Air Force officials, who are officially responsible for contracting for the new planes under the Presidential Aircraft Recapitalization program, have affirmed that some requirements have changed, such as a specification for mid-air refueling that was cut.
The service was also able to reduce cost by buying 747s previously built by Boeing for a now-bankrupt Russian airline that never accepted the planes
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No air refuelling ? :o

Well, for as long as AF-1 can reach the nearest Golf Resort ...
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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by Passenger » 19 Jul 2018, 12:21

I know it's risky business not to insult Donald Trump, but let me ask something though:

the initial offer from Boeing was 4 billion for one 747. Now the deal seems to be 3,9 billion for two 747's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a rather good deal (even when 3,9 billion is a whole lot of money)?

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Post by KriVa » 19 Jul 2018, 15:55

I don't think the initial contract was for one 747, that wouldn't really make sense. Granted, the quote could be read that way, but only having a single plane doesn't make sense if you look at the way they operate the current VC-25s. Not having a back-up aircraft would not be an option. And you can't exactly consider the E-4B a backup for a VC-25/747-8. (VC-26?)
I remember reading that the mid-air refuel capability has never been used "in anger", only for training purposes, and even then with the E-4B to avoid damaging the VC-25s, if something were to go wrong.
The 747-8 will probably have considerably longer legs than the VC-25, reducing or even negating the need for aerial refuelling.
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Re: Boeing 747-8 news

Post by sn26567 » 31 Jul 2018, 23:14

FAA ordered GE Aviation to replace high-pressure turbine stator cases on some GEnx turbofans. Those engines include variants of GEnx-1Bs, which power B787s, and GEnx-2Bs, which power B747-8s.
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