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As long they stay focused on these vip or bizz flights, the future of ebaw is very bleak. There is potential for scheduled flights, but it needs a commitment between the private investor(s) and the flemish authorities. I agree, ebaw will never be a second ebci. That also means that there will be less room for training flights, general aviation flights etc. but apparently a clear strong vision of ebaw is still missing. The same stands for ebos.

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Road access and public transport connections to EBAW are also far from ideal. Next to that, little or no possibilities for interconnections. So unless you really need to be in the vicinity of EBAW, there is no real added value of flying into EBAW compared to EBBR

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apparently a clear strong vision of ebaw is still missing. The same stands for ebos.
Yes, that is the crux of the story, and has been for many years now. At the risk of (again) entering the wolves' den of political discussion: the same applies to many aspects of politics in Flanders (and its banlieue ;-)
there is no real added value of flying into EBAW compared to EBBR
...unless one values free parking close to the terminal, unlimited in time, hasslefree customs and immigration checks, and (at most times of day) little or no traffic jams around.

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jan_olieslagers wrote:
there is no real added value of flying into EBAW compared to EBBR
...unless one values free parking close to the terminal, unlimited in time, hasslefree customs and immigration checks, and (at most times of day) little or no traffic jams around.
True, but I'm afraid the offer in terms of destinations is simply too limited in order to attract a significant segment. Serving 2 destinations is hardly a viable business case, right? Now, I'm not convinced that scheduled traffic is the core of the EBAW business case, but the airport will simply not be self sustaining based on training flights alone. It is relatively strong however in the private jet segment, but I suspect it to be among the most volatile aviation segments, so no real long term strategy there...

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Hello

The last week of BMI at ANR.. :(

Number of pax this morning:
Inbound: 12
Outbound: 7

The reason that BMI leaves ANR is not due to the low pax numbers ( sometimes this flight is full), but because of the financial situation of BMI ( at least that is what I heard)

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Isn't the main reason that they're closing their base at MAN? They have found money to start NCL from BRU next spring.

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Hello

But MAN is too expensive for them so that is why they will close MAN.
So it all comes back to the same point "financial problems"

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The reason that BMI leaves ANR is not due to the low pax numbers ( sometimes this flight is full
So,there is potential on this route. Which airline is willing to take over? any candidates in sight?

Grtz.

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None,
BMI has to cut financially
Flybe has to spare money too and rent planes to Brussels Airlines a competitor
Eastern only flies in GB
City/VLM is for sale
when you know a company, please say it

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BMI has to cut financially
Flybe has to spare money too and rent planes to Brussels Airlines a competitor
Eastern only flies in GB
City/VLM is for sale
when you know a company, please say it
Not a brilliant situation indeed but,
Eastern airways is flying outside UK (Stavanger).They have the planes which might better suit the sector than BMI's EMB135/145.
Flybe is retrenching,but Antwerp would maybe fit in their future network
Other UK airlines:
e.g Loganair as a franchise operation for BA or Flybe.
Citywing (new airline)
It has not to be necessarily a UK airline;
Could also be AerArran/aer Lingus setting up DUB-MAN-ANR service(tag-on to existing DUB-MAN route)
Grtz.

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As a closure to this topic, the 'load factor' boarding the last flight:
courtesy of AVIATION SOCIETY of ANTWERP ©Paul Soons

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DIBO wrote:As a closure to this topic, the 'load factor' boarding the last flight:
courtesy of AVIATION SOCIETY of ANTWERP ©Paul Soons
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You don't have permission to access /images
Strange, was not aware of any login or membership requirements to view the site.
I'm not going to copy the picture elsewhere for © reasons; so it's a nice late evening picture of a BMI Regional ERJ145 with about 5 people boarding the last Machester flight. Sad picture for EBAW fans.

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You don't have permission to access
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Remove the http:// and www. then it works.

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