BRU winter 2012-2013: latest news, routes, airlines

[sn26567]

Prague – Brussels Service increases from 17 to 22 weekly, new weekdays mid-morning departure

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OK638 PRG0900 – 1025BRU 735 x67
OK639 BRU1105 – 1230PRG 735 x67

Source: Airline Route

[RoMax]

As from 3 December Air Europa will start up to two daily flights between Madrid and Brussels with an Embraer E190.

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UX1171 MAD0750 – 1015BRU E90 x7
UX1173 MAD1420 – 1645BRU E90 D

UX1172 BRU1105 – 1320MAD E90 D
UX1174 BRU1730 – 1945MAD E90 x6

Source: airlineroute.net

[sn26567]

As from 3 December Air Europa will start up to two daily flights between Madrid and Brussels with an Embraer E190.

Air Europa is a member of Skyteam, hence all three alliances will fly the BRU-MAD route. Welcome to the competition!

[Tomskii]

Great to see Air Europa finally in BRU, always good to see new spotting material!

[Inquirer]

As from 3 December Air Europa will start up to two daily flights between Madrid and Brussels with an Embraer E190.

Air Europa is a member of Skyteam, hence all three alliances will fly the BRU-MAD route. Welcome to the competition!

Yet isn't that a bit too much competition?
Sure, demand is good in summer, but starting during in low season seems odd to me.
Flown both IB as well as SN during wintertime on this route and loads are well euh, let's say low (70 pax on an airbus for instance) so for anybody without much feed it seems strange to step into this market right when it is at it's weakest. Are they overestimating the importance of BRU, blinded by the number of flights on the route which may be due to the fact both airlines present on it draw in a lot of connections, or are they thinking of doing some alliance feeding as well?

[RoMax]

SN flew 4 daily on this route for quite some time, but since last winter (?) they only fly 3 daily. Maybe AirEuropa hopes to push SN or Iberia partly out of this market.

If I remember well they started also 2 daily MAD-AMS with the E190 last year. For a few times they planned an upgrade to the 738, but I don't think it happened yet (tough not sure).
But of course AMS is different, they can work together with KL in the fight with IB.

[LJ]

If I remember well they started also 2 daily MAD-AMS with the E190 last year. For a few times they planned an upgrade to the 738, but I don't think it happened yet (tough not sure).

It didn't materialise, but it will in W12 as UX has the Neckermann contract for pax to CUN and Carribean.

Sure, demand is good in summer, but starting during in low season seems odd to me.

You seem to forget the bigger picture. UX has a many long haul flights ex MAD (and these flights are well timed for the long haul flights). As long as there are no direct flights to Latin America UX may be able to compete with IB on some routes (and Winter is high season for Latin America). Moreover maybe they have the same deal with Neckermann/Thomas Cook in Belgium as they have in The Netherlands.

As from 3 December Air Europa will start up to two daily flights between Madrid and Brussels with an Embraer E190.

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UX1171 MAD0750 – 1015BRU E90 x7
UX1173 MAD1420 – 1645BRU E90 D

UX1172 BRU1105 – 1320MAD E90 D
UX1174 BRU1730 – 1945MAD E90 x6

Source: airlineroute.net

I reckon this must be a mistake as how can UX1172 be daily if UX1171 is 6 weekly? I don't think UX will have an ERJ190 parked at BRU for almost an entire day.

[Inquirer]

Indeed, I didnt think about their long hauls to south America....
Flight times indeed seem to be aimed more at feeding traffic than at the local markets: the last departure from mad is inconveniently early, just as the first departure from BRU is simpy too late to be really attractiveto anybody going to Central Spain for business.

[Tomskii]

@LJ: there are 2 daily flights MAD-BRU except on saturday. That's why you see that it's only 13 times weekly.

[RoMax]

Shedule is the same as loaded in GDS (amadeus).

[sdbelgium]

That's because it's 1974/1971 rotation, and not 1971/1972 (the plane nightstops in BRU).

[LJ]

That's because it's 1974/1971 rotation, and not 1971/1972 (the plane nightstops in BRU).

I'm slightly mystified. I reckon you mean a 1973/1972 rotation on Saturdays (whereas normally a 1971/1972 and 1973/1974 rotation)? Only logical explanation for this schedule is that they focus more on Caribbean connections than South American connections

[Airbus A330]

So if I read the Air Europa schedule correctly, it is:

UX 1171 MAD 0750 BRU 1015 123456
(Nightstop at BRU)
UX 1174 BRU 1730 MAD 1950 123457

UX 1173 MAD 1420 BRU 1615 D
(Nightstop at BRU)
UX 1172 BRU 1105 MAD 1325 D

Is it correct? I admit I am lost in this schedule.

[sn26567]

Lufthansa will reduce Frankfurt–Brussels service from 10 to 8 daily, compared to Winter 2011-2012.

[VEX802]

Perhaps already mentioned but Cyprus Airways will suspend its route Larnaca - Brussels as from 31 december 2012

[capetown]

Maybe already posted elsewhere but TG will add a 4th weekly flight (on Sundays) to Bangkok starting February 12th, 2013 (Source : Airlineroute.net): All flights will be carried out with the 777-300ER.

Schedule:

TG934 BKK0030 – 0700BRU 77W x135
TG935 BRU1245 – 0535+1BKK 77W x135

Day 7 service begins from 12FEB13

[WC_EEND]

Doesn't that also mean an upgauge from the current 77E flying the route?

[sdbelgium]

Doesn't that also mean an upgauge from the current 77E flying the route?

Correct. If they send their own 777-300ER (not the 9W leased ones), this will mean an increase of almost 300 seats per week.

[WC_EEND]

Thai's timetable on their website seems to confirm this, except for the fact that their timetable shows the a/c operating as a 773 and not a 77W.

[sdbelgium]

According to a post on Flightlevel, they will be 3 class configured planes (leased from Jet Airways).