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Jet Airways sees 'Tax' as not done!

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Jet Airways will review his position at BRU if the 'tax' on expensive tickets will come.

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1901/reisnieuw ... tten.dhtml
(only in dutch)

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Can we ask our fellow members for a translation ?

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airtrainer wrote:Can we ask our fellow members for a translation ?

(google translator) ;)

The slope of formateur Elio Di Rupo to enter a new tax on expensive plane tickets clashes with resistance. The Indian airline Jet Airways, some 400,000 passengers annually and flies to Brussels, would such a tax does not sit. That said CEO Nicos Kardassis today in Mumbai during a meeting with Minister-President Kris Peeters (CD & V).
The frequency of the clock pops a plan to fly a tax of 60 euros per ticket to enter the first and business class tickets. The federal government created resigning months ago a working group to examine the issue. The track would also appear in the budget discussions that the formateur now working with the six parties forming government performs.

Jet Airways, the second company of India, used since 2007 as a European hub Brussels. Passengers from the U.S. and India with Jet Airways flight, in Brussels, a connection to another European destination. Jet Airways is concerned that the introduction of a passenger flight tax drive away from Brussels. "Such a tax would make a certain segment of our properties no longer profitable. If the tax is coming, we must rethink our position in Brussels," says CEO Kardassis.

The cost of baggage handling at Brussels Airport is a little on the high side. Jet Airways would like to see more competition on the tarmac, said Kardassis yet. Currently, a legal battle over which companies are allowed baggage handling at Zaventem. That erupted after the contracts were awarded to Swissport and Flight Care. Aviapartner, still active at Brussels Airport.

The whole issue of costs was not unimportant for the presence of Jet Airways at Brussels Airport. The Indian company is currently negotiating accession to the Star Alliance, the partnership between 27 companies where SN Brussels member. If Jet Airways joins the alliance, its roots in Brussels stronger suit.

Can not the entry, search for a possible rival Jet Airways alliance, and it would be almost inevitable that Jet moved its European hub from Brussels to Amsterdam or Paris. SN Brussels would then no longer able to work with Jet Airways. Kardassis CEO expects a decision in the coming months, he said today. (Belga / adv)


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Let's hope it won't happen... But if they join Star, i don't see them leaving.

Let's pray ;)
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http://www.lalibre.be/toutelinfo/belga/ ... elles.html

Here in french.

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Human translator:

The proposal of "formateur" Elio Di Rupo to ask extensive taxes on expensive airline tickets is getting resistance. Indian airline Jet Airways, good for 400.000 pax annually through Brussels doesn't agree with this plan. CEO Nicos Kardassis said this today at a meeting in Mumbai with Flemish Minister-President Kris Peeters (CD&V)

More then often the plane is raised to raise taxes (about 60 EUR per pax) on first- & business class tickets. The resigning federal government created a workgroup to investigate this plan. During the formation of the new government and the budget discussions it seems that the proposal is back on the table.

Jet Airways, second largest airline in India, uses Brussels Airport since 2007 as their European Hub. Passengers who use Jet Airways from and to the USA and India are using Brussels to change flights. In Brussels Jet Airways offers connections throughout Europe with partner airlines in codeshare. Jet Airways thinks that the new tax will move passengers to other airports to avoid the tax. The tax would make certain sectors unprofitable. If the plans will go through, Jet Airways will be forced to re-evaluate their operations in Brussels says CEO Kardassis. (= saying between the lines: If the tax is implemented then we will leave Brussels)

Jet Airways has also issues with the high prices which are charged by the luggage handlers. Kardassis wants to see some competition on the tarmac. At this moment legal actions are been taken concerning the contracts (assigned this year) for luggage handling. The legal actions were taken by Aviapartner (currently active on BRU) after the new contracts were assigned to Flightcare & Swissport.

The whole matter about the (high) costs are quite important now that Jet Airways is negotiating joining Star Alliance. Star Alliance is the world biggest airline alliance and has 27 members including Brussels Airlines. If Jet Airways joins Star Alliance this would strenghten their position on Brussels Airport.

If the negotiations between Jet Airways and Star Alliance doesn't succeed then it will be inevitable that Jet Airways moves their European hub to Amsterdam or Paris (when joining Skyteam). Brussels Airlines wouldn't been able to work with Jet Airways if this happens. CEO Kardassis expects a decission in the next couple of months whether it will be able to join (Star Alliance).

(belga/adv)

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Jet won't like it and others neither but what is the latest news for them joining STAR,did the Indian government gave already his approval or is it still warzone because of the refusal for AI?

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what a stupid, stupid idea. I hope the politicians rethink this.
(no new taxes but new cost cuts should be made.)

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Hi,

The leaving of Jet due to taxes is just blablabla of Jet,
pushing the government a bit,if they'll leave they won't leave for the tax but for not joining *A IMO.

If the government want to cash some more tax I'm glad it's only for C and F class ,
I think people who fly this class still won't feel that much of this tax.. if they do in first place they would opt for economy or Y+ ..
BTW the majority of this pax don't even pay for it themselves..

As long as they don't hit Y (and even then a tax or 1-5 euro/flight won't stop people flying..
just as those smokers amongst us..) pax numbers won't drop..
But hey I'm just a backpacker haha..

But it strange to think about that government A cash some tax of aviation and government B pay some of our taxes to let some other carrier fly cheap.. strange governments we have :roll:

Besides.. if they won't tax flights, they tax something else ..11 trillion is hard to find and we gonna pay it anyway..

Just my 2 cents..

CX-B

Offcourse as an aviation fan I regret any tax, just as a smokers regret 'his' tax.. ;)
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cathay belgium wrote: The leaving of Jet due to taxes is just blablabla of Jet,
pushing the government a bit,if they'll leave they won't leave for the tax but for not joining *A IMO.
its serieus. the stupid tax id is just too much for an already expensive scissor hub.
Belgium needs to find extra money so they go and take it from the aviation industry, energy producers and working class people... what a great country we have

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cathay belgium wrote:
Besides.. if they won't tax flights, they tax something else ..11 trillion is hard to find and we gonna pay it anyway..
That would be a hard number to find indeed. However they are only looking for 11 billion (1000x less) :)

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In a unique honour, Belgium today conferred the “Commandeur of the Order of Leopold II”, one of the country’s highest civilian distinctions, to Mr. Naresh Goyal, Chairman, Jet Airways, for his meritorious service and efforts to foster business and cultural ties with Belgium. This distinction has been conferred on him by H.E The King of the Belgians. (see Jet Airways press release: viewtopic.php?p=256753#p256753)

Is that the Belgian way of trying to soften Jet Airways' stance on the tax dispute?
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A shame !
Why Jet airways and not MoL which supports a whole region and a full airport !!

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Luckily we still got some work for this king to do,besides rescue politicians,..
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cathay belgium wrote:A shame !
Why Jet airways and not MoL which supports a whole region and a full airport !!
Because he (MoL) gets millions of tax money for it each year (ok, 9W also gets advantages, but not the same as Ryanair gets from the Walloon government). Jet Airways is enormous important for the Indian-Belgian economy (wich is much more important than any economy that Ryanair is supporting, as they do not really serve business pax, but mostly holiday pax). Especially for the Antwerp diamond industry wich is now much more dominated by Indians than by Jews, like it was before. (These people that work in the diamond industry were almost the only people using the first class seats on the 9W flights at the time Jet started their hub in BRU. But after that the 77W service was ended so these people flew business. Now with limited 77W flights again, some use First class again.)
Jet Airways is the biggest long haul carrier at BRU (altoug I think SN will pass them by if 9W doesn't expand in 2012), they transport the most freight on board of pax aircraft in BRU, they bring in millions a year for Brussels Airport (and other companies) each year, they deliver hundreds of pax to SN each day, they give work to a lot of people in the region of the airport (BRU itself, handling, catering, ...), ...

I don't want to say Ryanair is not important for the Walloon economy, as it is really extremely important for that region. But Jet Airways is a totally different story. Besides that Belgium wants to make Jet as happy as they can, they don't want to loose this carrier...

And besides that, if they would give such a honour to MoL...would be another reason for me to think "Why, Why, WHY??" as a Belgian. :mrgreen: He is genious as a CEO, but I don't like him. :mrgreen:

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cathay belgium wrote:Why Jet airways and not MoL
Because MoL would make a joke of the whole event and use it for promotional reasons.

Cheers,

Stij

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