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As of 10AUG13, LOT Polish Airlines will become the first carrier in the world to operate the Boeing 787 aircraft as its sole long-haul fleet type.

Norwegian will follow very soon thereafter, in late August.
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Ahead of the Paris Air Show and the announcement of their 787-10 order, United Airlines already increased their 787 order with 5 aircraft, though it passed by unnoticed. 4 Additional -9's and 1 -8. The 787-10 order included 10 new firm orders and 10 conversions from their -8 orders.

Including the new orders, they have a backlog of 21 787-8's, 18 of the larger -9 and another 20 of the newest version. They already operate 6 of the 787-8.
So when they take delivey of all these aircraft, they'll operate 65 Dreamliners and they still have 60 more options.
(In addition they have 35 A350-1000's on order with 40 more options)

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Roll out of the first 787-9 today. In Air New Zealand colours.

One antenna is missing: the ELT. I wonder why :mrgreen: The test aircraft will fly without ELT.
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After the Ethiopian 787 incident, first EASA ordered all European airlines flying the 787 (British Airways, LOT Polish Airlines, Norwegian and Thomson Airways) to disable their Honeywell emergency locator transmitters (ELT) during the time necessary to complete the investigation, following the UK AAIB recommendations.

And hours later the FAA took a similar decision for the American 787s.

The Emergency Locator Transmitter sends out location and a distress call if a plane crashes.
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by sn26567 » 19 Jul 2013 01:43 pm
Roll out of the first 787-9 today. In Air New Zealand colours.
Not correct:
http://www.seattlepi.com/business/boein ... -66549.php

I think that I read somewhere that this aircraft will join the Air New Zealand fleet later on.

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sn26567 wrote: EASA ordered to disable their Honeywell emergency locator transmitters (ELT)
The advantage : If next days we are missing a Dreamliner, we already know why . :?

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Boeing is supporting the actions by regulators around the world in response to AAIB special bulletin on 787 emergency locator transmitters. They have provided instructions to all their 787 customers to meet these regulatory guidelines, i.e. to disable the ELTs.

FAA and Boeing are developing 787 ELT inspections, looking for proper wire routing, damage, pinching or unusual heating/moisture.

Boeing will give airlines option of removing or inspecting transmitters aboard 787s.

According to an article from Reuters, investigators are still trying to determine if condensation on the plane may have seeped into the Honeywell ELT, triggering a short circuit in the unit's battery.

More details on the investigation: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/ ... 8020130719
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For aerodynamics reasons, the nacelles of the 787 used to be only white. British Airways decided to have its traditional blue colour for the nacelles of its own 787s. And now Qatar Airways also opted for its classical grey colour:

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The end in sight for the white nacelles?
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The CFO of Boeing said today that the first delivery of a 787-9 is slipping from early 2014 to mid-2014.

More delays again?

(Note: I miss the comments of RoMax on the latest Boeing news!)
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sn26567 wrote: (Note: I miss the comments of RoMax on the latest Boeing news!)
Some places on this earth don't has any communications at all. If so ,he will enjoy the quietest of holidays.

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Any news of the 787 for JETAIRFLY?
Thanks.

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galaxy wrote:
sn26567 wrote: (Note: I miss the comments of RoMax on the latest Boeing news!)
Some places on this earth don't has any communications at all. If so ,he will enjoy the quietest of holidays.
I'm enjoying some free time and though limited folowing the recent developments, I'm not spending my time on reading everything I should read before making comments. But from what I understand from it, there is not that much to say, a big problem with the ELT which they'll have to solve. Boeing's fault, Honywell's fault,... it doesn't matter, it has to be solved anyway. Boeing has messed up the 787 as much as they can already, so have many of their suppliers (many of them were (partly) pushed out of the program or taken over by Boeing to minimise possible damage to the program).
It's still a great airplane, but with many (serious) problems, I'll never deny that.
sn26567 wrote:For aerodynamics reasons, the nacelles of the 787 used to be only white. British Airways decided to have its traditional blue colour for the nacelles of its own 787s. And now Qatar Airways also opted for its classical grey colour:

The end in sight for the white nacelles?
The special paint that improves aerodynamic flows has always been available in white and grey. Though the white one is slightly more efficient than the grey one. But as with many things, this is just an option that Boeing offers, airlines are free to go with it or not. It offers a slight improvement in fuel consumption, but only very slighty. So for airlines who have white engines anyway, it's a nice thing, but for an airline like BA which has blue engines which make a big part of the whole paint, the image of the whole paint is more important.
sn26567 wrote:The CFO of Boeing said today that the first delivery of a 787-9 is slipping from early 2014 to mid-2014.
More delays again?
If they have to, delay it another year, as long as they make sure they have a smoother EIS as with the 787-8. But important to note, contrary to the 787-8, the bigger version will about on weight and meeting specifications as from the earliest production frames, something that could not be said of the -8. I think Air New Zealand and other users will be more happy with a few months of extra delays than some months of groundings or serious problems.

And if you don't mind, I'm going to enjoy my latest free days. ;)

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I would paint flames on my engine cowlings.

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Air India inflight incident : "internal fire in an oven"

http://avherald.com/h?article=465e2d54&opt=0

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Passenger wrote:Air India inflight incident : "internal fire in an oven"

http://avherald.com/h?article=465e2d54&opt=0
Would it be possible to keep this thread interesting with NEWS about the B787?

Fire in ovens happen every day in single type of aircraft...

This is getting really boring.

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JAF737 wrote:Would it be possible to keep this thread interesting with NEWS about the B787?
If The Aviation Herald deems necessary to mention such an incident, it means that it is serious enough to be mentioned to aviation enthusiasts.
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JAF737 wrote:
Passenger wrote:Air India inflight incident : "internal fire in an oven"

http://avherald.com/h?article=465e2d54&opt=0
Would it be possible to keep this thread interesting with NEWS about the B787?
Fire in ovens happen every day in single type of aircraft...
This is getting really boring.
This IS news about the 787. It's not good news, but then the topic title isn't “787 good news only”.

And yes, oven firesand galley problems occur - although not daily like you suggest. And surely not with crew needing to “…discharge fire extinguishers onto and into the oven…” (quote AvHerald). Fact is that this is yet another electrical problem for the 787.

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Passenger wrote:And yes, oven fires and galley problems occur - although not daily like you suggest. And surely not with crew needing to “…discharge fire extinguishers onto and into the oven…” (quote AvHerald). Fact is that this is yet another electrical problem for the 787.
Tere is not a single proof of an electrical problem!
99,99% of oven fires are caused by flammable objects which were put in the oven. (plastic cups, newspapers, handbag of a flight attendant...)

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Speaking from my own experience... The main reason for oven fires are catering stickers left on or behind the oven inserts, instead of on the oven door, where they should be.
This happens far too often. It should never happen, and should always be discovered by the cabin crew. Far too often it isn't discovered, with consequences like these as an end result.
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sn26567 wrote:
JAF737 wrote:Would it be possible to keep this thread interesting with NEWS about the B787?
If The Aviation Herald deems necessary to mention such an incident, it means that it is serious enough to be mentioned to aviation enthusiasts.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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