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If the hole is taped over and the pressures inside and outside are equal, the sensor will think everything is ok. Then you start flying, the pressure outside drops, but the pressure inside stays the same. Only then do you get a warning from the sensor.

Perhaps the installation procedure should include a step involving increasing the pressure inside the container and checking if the sensor says there is a difference.

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http://paineairport.com/kpae6342.htm
Nice picture of G-ZBJB during landing after its first flight.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8992397061/lightbox/
And this one during take-off.

First delivery to British Airways is planned for the end of June.

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RoMax wrote:First delivery to British Airways is planned for the end of June.
First one on 26 june and second one the day thereafter. And almost simultaneously the first A380 on 4 July.

British Airways will be the first airline in the world to own and operate at the same time the B787 and the A380.

On other news, Ethiopian Airlines, which has 10 787s on order, is considering an order for additional Boeing 787s for delivery after 2017. Their fifth 787 will arrive next month in Addis Ababa. Next year they expect four or five additional 787s to arrive.
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sn26567 wrote: British Airways will be the first airline in the world to own and operate at the same time the B787 and the A380.
Isn't China Southern the first one? They have 5 A380's and they got their first 787. You would think they would the the first to actually operate both of them?

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sn26567 wrote: British Airways will be the first airline in the world to own and operate at the same time the B787 and the A380.
Isn't China Southern the first one? They have 5 A380's and they got their first 787. You would think they would the the first to actually operate both of them?
True! My mistake. BA is only the first European airline to fly both aircraft, as per their latest press release, which I misread.
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Perhaps it will be the first one to fly both on international routes, seeing how the Chinese authorities only allow domestic use of the 787 for now?

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earthman wrote:Perhaps it will be the first one to fly both on international routes, seeing how the Chinese authorities only allow domestic use of the 787 for now?
Yes that may be true indeed. But in this case they mentionned it in their official press release that they will be the first 'European' airline to operate both aircraft, but (mistakes happen) sn26567 skipped the word "European".

Anyway, still nice for BA to be able to add these two state-of-the-art aircraft within a few days of each other. Tough when they ordered them, that was not the plan I suppose... :oops: :mrgreen:

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RoMax wrote:Anyway, still nice for BA to be able to add these two state-of-the-art aircraft within a few days of each other. Tough when they ordered them, that was not the plan I suppose... :oops: :mrgreen:
no im sure they were supposed to get their B787s earlier

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RoMax wrote: Anyway, still nice for BA to be able to add these two state-of-the-art aircraft within a few days of each other. Tough when they ordered them, that was not the plan I suppose... :oops: :mrgreen:
Not sure , the same year , in 2007, BA purchased 12 Airbus A380 and 24 Boeing 787

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galaxy wrote: Not sure , the same year , in 2007, BA purchased 12 Airbus A380 and 24 Boeing 787
Ordering them in the same year doesn't mean they will be delivered in the same year. BA expected the first 787 in 2010 and the first A380 in 2012 (with all deliveries between 2010 and 2014).
So the delays made this summer more special for BA than they could have ever expected in 2007 :mrgreen:

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Btw, about the Paris Air Show. Qatar Airways will send a 787 for static display and Boeing will send one which will also fly from Monday till Friday (but to me it's not clear if it's one of the Boeing aircraft or an undelivered aircraft of an airline, different sources talk about different things).

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One of Thomson's 787's is doing practicing flights at OST, according to the facebook page of JetairFly.
The first 787 landing in OST :p

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Just heard that an ANA scheduled service scrapped cos a RR Trent engine would not start. :o
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rolls-roy ... 59483.html
Is that not the same series of engines used in the Airbus 350?

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bollox wrote:Just heard that an ANA scheduled service scrapped cos a RR Trent engine would not start. :o
The media circus is running again, don't worry, still no reason to think they'll soon all fall out of the sky.
bollox wrote: Is that not the same series of engines used in the Airbus 350?
The A350 uses the XWB engine, that's a different series, though having quite some things in common with the Trent 1000. RR is also working on the Trent 1000-TEN for the 787, which will have even more in common (new technology that was developed for the XWB will be incorporated in that new Trent 1000 version).

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bollox wrote:Just heard that an ANA scheduled service scrapped cos a RR Trent engine would not start. :o
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rolls-roy ... 59483.html
Is that not the same series of engines used in the Airbus 350?
Obviously just a battery problem :)

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The Boeing 787-10 launch is foreseen at the Paris Air Show 2013; United Airlines, Air Lease Corp., Singapore Airlines and British Airways are expected to be the launch customers.
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sn26567 wrote:The Boeing 787-10 launch is foreseen at the Paris Air Show 2013; United Airlines, Air Lease Corp., Singapore Airlines and British Airways are expected to be the launch customers.
I'm very curious :mrgreen:
Of course we know of Singapore Airlines, as they already announced that they signed a contract for 30 of these new 787-10 aircraft (to be firmed after official launch of the aircraft). I'm curious about the other airlines.

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sn26567 wrote:The Boeing 787-10 launch is foreseen at the Paris Air Show 2013; United Airlines, Air Lease Corp., Singapore Airlines and British Airways are expected to be the launch customers.
I'm very curious :mrgreen:
Of course we know of Singapore Airlines, as they already announced that they signed a contract for 30 of these new 787-10 aircraft (to be firmed after official launch of the aircraft). I'm curious about the other airlines.
Oh, now I also think of BA. The recently announced the conversion of 18 options for the 787, leaving open the exact version.

That seems like Singapore Airlines 30 and British Airways (at least) 18. Still curious about United Airlines and ALC was always a BIG supporter of the 787-10, so no suprise they are on the first row as well.

Btw, some years ago, EK was also one of the demanding airlines for the 787-10 (calling the others too small), but recently their focus seems to have shifted to the A350 for the smaller widebodies and the 777X for the bigger ones.

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As expected, Boeing is going to increase production of the 787 beyond the 10/month which is planned for the end of this year. To accomodate increasing demand and especially to accomodate the new version, they'll increase production towards 14/month in 2015.

Originaly 10/month was planned for just one FAL in Everett, currently this 10/month will be shared between Everett, Charleston and an extra surge line in Everett (which is important to get the 787-9 introduced in the final assembly). So 14/month, even with just the main line in Everett and the one in Charleston, should be feasible (the surge line is a 'temporary solution').

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Not as exciting as the first A350 flight, but still nice to see that the first 787 for Norwegian has performed its first test flight:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Norwegia ... 2271921/L/

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