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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by pitrixplanespotting » 25 Jul 2019, 18:26

It was still wearing the same livery as in the picture posted here before.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by luchtzak » 31 Jul 2019, 13:54

Today's test flight of OO-SFF
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Ansett » 31 Jul 2019, 16:09

Isn't really a big change from the former livery, just more dull , German dullness, or how to make sure your aircraft don't get noticed. Well, should not complain, the most important thing is that SN is out of EW.
Now, let's see what LH/CS's plans are to create a holding company for the airlines in the LH Group.

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Post by Conti764 » 01 Aug 2019, 11:09

luchtzak wrote:
31 Jul 2019, 13:54
Today's test flight of OO-SFF
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I like the livery. Classy and clean.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Boavida » 01 Aug 2019, 11:31

It looks unfinished and temporary. As there is no official communication from SN, I don't believe this is the new livery. (at least I hope not!) :?

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Post by CTBke » 01 Aug 2019, 11:50

Boavida wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 11:31
It looks unfinished and temporary. As there is no official communication from SN, I don't believe this is the new livery. (at least I hope not!) :?

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Picture from https://www.planespotters.net/photo/977 ... s-a330-343
there is no official statement about this livery at all, just speculations.
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Boavida » 01 Aug 2019, 11:59

As a livery change is a big PR-operation for an airline, I don't believe this is the new livery. A new livery doesn't just show up without any communication or publicity campaign.

It's just a temporary solution. Please move on :)

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by bartds » 01 Aug 2019, 12:27

what’s happening with OO-SFC left BRU today as SN255? Flew by at low altitude & performing circles around Antwerp since half an hour.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by bartds » 01 Aug 2019, 12:59

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Jetter » 01 Aug 2019, 13:33

CTBke wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 11:50
Boavida wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 11:31
It looks unfinished and temporary. As there is no official communication from SN, I don't believe this is the new livery. (at least I hope not!) :?

Image
Picture from https://www.planespotters.net/photo/977 ... s-a330-343
there is no official statement about this livery at all, just speculations.
Well, besides the speculations there is an actual plane flying with it. :geek:

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by PttU » 01 Aug 2019, 13:45

Jetter wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 13:33
CTBke wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 11:50
Boavida wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 11:31
It looks unfinished and temporary. As there is no official communication from SN, I don't believe this is the new livery. (at least I hope not!) :?

Image
Picture from https://www.planespotters.net/photo/977 ... s-a330-343
there is no official statement about this livery at all, just speculations.
Well, besides the speculations there is an actual plane flying with it. :geek:
A temporary livery is a livery too, yes. And even though it's a bit white, and the blue from the tail stops at the fuselage, it's still better than SN flying with Singapore's colors.

By the way: Is this white the LH-white or 9V-white? And is the dark blue tail the SN-dark blue, or the 9V-dark blue? How much did they repaint?

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sn26567 » 01 Aug 2019, 14:43

No official SN statement, but from conversations I had with two SN managers one can deduct that:
  • All future SN widebodies will get minimal painting jobs: a white fuselage, a blue tail with the red b dots.
  • That painting is there to stay. Pressure on costs will have that livery remain until there is a real need for a new paint job.
Thus, you may call it temporary, but it will be a long-term temporary livery.
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Post by 737MAX » 01 Aug 2019, 15:32

sn26567 wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 14:43
No official SN statement, but from conversations I had with two SN managers one can deduct that:
Says it all.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by BrightCedars » 02 Aug 2019, 10:40

Haven't they learned from Air Belgium that you can use stickers too?

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Post by Av24.be » 02 Aug 2019, 13:34

The Airbus A330-300 (Reg. OO-SFF) is painted in a simplified livery (white fuselage and white engines; only tail and titles are different), that is going to be the standard scheme for all aircraft of the Lufthansa Group.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by PttU » 02 Aug 2019, 14:34

Av24.be wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 13:34
The Airbus A330-300 (Reg. OO-SFF) is painted in a simplified livery (white fuselage and white engines; only tail and titles are different), that is going to be the standard scheme for all aircraft of the Lufthansa Group.
Speculation or confirmed? If it's confirmed, it's quite a shame an international twitter-account can get a statement, but this Belgian aviation newssite can't.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by DeltaWiskey » 02 Aug 2019, 15:57

sn26567 wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 14:43
No official SN statement, but from conversations I had with two SN managers one can deduct that:
  • All future SN widebodies will get minimal painting jobs: a white fuselage, a blue tail with the red b dots.
  • That painting is there to stay. Pressure on costs will have that livery remain until there is a real need for a new paint job.
Thus, you may call it temporary, but it will be a long-term temporary livery.
Us usual, your interpretation is misleading and incorrect. The paint on SFF was decided at a time when SN was still under the Eurowings umbrella, therefore it was intended to be an interim solution until it was decided what would happen with the SN brand for long haul (the decision for short haul was already taken, hence the c/s on SNN).

However, now that it is clear that SN will go its own way, it will get a "normal" livery in due time, the current is only temporarily. As you can guess, updating the paint within weeks is not possible and it isn't on top of the priority list. Hence, this tempo c/s on SFF could last for one, or maybe, two years. At the moment, there is no plan to paint other widebodies in this c/s.

We will have to see how SFH (the next A330-300) will look like to make any kind of conclusion.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by crew1990 » 02 Aug 2019, 18:46

DeltaWiskey, do you have any information about the next aircraft entering the fleet and the one wich will be leaving? I'm kind of lost.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by pitrixplanespotting » 02 Aug 2019, 19:18

according to https://sites.google.com/site/lhgroupfleet/brussels

OO-SFH (ex CX) is the next one to join in October 19
and OO-SFW the next one to leave in September 19

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by DeltaWiskey » 02 Aug 2019, 22:34

@crew1990:
Outgoing
SFM-N-O-V have already left the fleet.

SFY will leave this month. SFW will leave in November. SNG in December. SFU early 2020.
SFZ in 2021 and SFT in 2022.

Incoming
SFP is MSN 645 and is the fourth (and final*) for DUS ops. SFP should start operating in September (replacing the A340).
SFH will be MSN 679 (ex-CX) and arrives at the end of this year, SFH is the final airframe of the current re-fleet program.
The replacement a/c for SFZ and SFT are not known yet.

The google list is not completely correct: MSN 648 is also listed on the google site, however, MSN 570 was transferred instead of MSN 648.

*Over one month ago there were talks of adding a 5th A330 for the DUS ops, but I think that idea is off the table now, seeing the recent developments.

I have no info on other incoming aircraft for 2020, but I believe that is one of the topics being discussed at Board level now, so no one knows really, yet. It can be 1, or 2, or 3 a/c, or none at all.

Ever since SN is 100% LHG, transfer of aircraft are only known at very short notice. It is supposedly one of the benefits of being in a big aviation group.

At the beginning of next year it should look like this (when the current re-fleet is finished):
DUS: SFJ-K-L-P
BRU: SFB-C-D-H (ex-CX), SFE-F-G-X (ex-SQ), SFZ-T (to be replaced in '21-'22).

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