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Samuel Zerilli wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 18:49
ChemtrailSwitch wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 11:04 After OO-SFZ, that left the fleet last month, it was time for OO-SSI to leave the Brussels Airlines fleet.
On monday 1 march it left Brussels bound for Zagreb Croatia (C-check).
A319's that still have to leave the fleet are: OO-SSE, OO-SSH, OO-SSK and OO-SSM.
Hello !

Do you have any departure dates for the A319s yet to depart ?

Samuel,
Hi Samuel,

Dates of the leaving A319´s are still to be decided.

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crew1990 wrote: 05 Mar 2021, 11:29The disadvantages are that as they are equipped with a MCR (crew bunk) there is less place in the cargo area.
Do they need the crew rest on flights to Africa? If not, they can remove the MCR and reclaim the cargo space. It's nothing if not a specialized container after all.

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No they don't, but you cannot remove it like you remove a trolley from the galley. It's part of the equipement of the aircraft. There are certification etc. So even if you can "easily" remove it, I'm not sure that administratively you do it so easily.

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crew1990 wrote: 06 Mar 2021, 12:34 No they don't, but you cannot remove it like you remove a trolley from the galley. It's part of the equipement of the aircraft. There are certification etc. So even if you can "easily" remove it, I'm not sure that administratively you do it so easily.
I would not see why it would be a problem as it is just a container that is loaded as standard, just like the fly-away kit. It is just an operational choice to keep it on board or not. I know HiFly did offload it a few times on some off their A340.
It will however have an effect on the max flight duration as there is no place for the crew to rest.

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flightlover wrote: 08 Mar 2021, 23:13
crew1990 wrote: 06 Mar 2021, 12:34 No they don't, but you cannot remove it like you remove a trolley from the galley. It's part of the equipement of the aircraft. There are certification etc. So even if you can "easily" remove it, I'm not sure that administratively you do it so easily.
I would not see why it would be a problem as it is just a container that is loaded as standard, just like the fly-away kit. It is just an operational choice to keep it on board or not. I know HiFly did offload it a few times on some off their A340.
It will however have an effect on the max flight duration as there is no place for the crew to rest.
or you let them be there, and expand to South Africa, and the US West Coast

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ChemtrailSwitch wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 11:04 After OO-SFZ, that left the fleet last month, it was time for OO-SSI to leave the Brussels Airlines fleet.
On monday 1 march it left Brussels bound for Zagreb Croatia (C-check).
A319's that still have to leave the fleet are: OO-SSE, OO-SSH, OO-SSK and OO-SSM.
Is C-check in ZAG of OO-SSI somehow connected with its future operation, I guess, in Croatia Airlines?

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A321Lufthansa wrote: 15 Mar 2021, 09:35
ChemtrailSwitch wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 11:04 After OO-SFZ, that left the fleet last month, it was time for OO-SSI to leave the Brussels Airlines fleet.
On monday 1 march it left Brussels bound for Zagreb Croatia (C-check).
A319's that still have to leave the fleet are: OO-SSE, OO-SSH, OO-SSK and OO-SSM.
Is C-check in ZAG of OO-SSI somehow connected with its future operation, I guess, in Croatia Airlines?
OO-SSI will indeed fly for another airline, wether or not it will be for Croatia Airlines I do not know :)

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OO-SSD has become LY-TKT, Avion Express, which should year a new livery, the one of Tiketa, a Lithuanian tour-operator.

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hey guys,

OO-SFH was inbound to AMM for maintenance, but diverted back to Brussels after it was flying over Austria

Any idea what happened?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... h#2777bf61

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OO-SSQ was ferried yesterday to LJU for return to lessor.

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Regarding the Lufthansa Group Fleet Google site. SSE, SSH, SSK, SSM and SNQ are being phases out. Wich will leave a A32s fleet of 13 A319 and 15 A320 while it was suppose to be 14 A319 and 16 A320. Someone any info about that?

For the long haul still no news, but the program with on 4 days per week, 9 flights programmed still in the booking system from 14th of June. Someone any info about that too?

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Matt wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 08:53 hey guys,

OO-SFH was inbound to AMM for maintenance, but diverted back to Brussels after it was flying over Austria

Any idea what happened?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... h#2777bf61
OO-SFH finally made it today to AMM, arriving as SN9901 at 1316LT

OO-SFF is currently flying back to BRU as SN9902. ATD 1750LT, ETA 2112.

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crew1990 wrote: 23 Apr 2021, 20:14 For the long haul still no news, but the program with on 4 days per week, 9 flights programmed still in the booking system from 14th of June. Someone any info about that too?
Hi,

OO-SFK and OO-SFL are still in BRU bringing the A330 Fleet to 9 (10 if OO-SFH returns in time).
SFL is in longterm storage while SFK is in parking condition and can be activated within a couple of days.

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Even if the 4 "Eurowings" aircrafts are under the SN AOC, there are not to be used for BRU ops as they don't have the same leasing contract than the others, they can only fly for Brussels Airlines in case of iregularities, AOG etc.

So as it is at the moment, Brussels Airlines only have 8 A330 available for their ops.

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crew1990 wrote: 26 Apr 2021, 12:20 Even if the 4 "Eurowings" aircrafts are under the SN AOC, there are not to be used for BRU ops as they don't have the same leasing contract than the others, they can only fly for Brussels Airlines in case of iregularities, AOG etc.
The terms of the lease impose a blanket ban on scheduled ops out of BRU for SN? Interesting. I’ve seen all sorts of restrictions on leases before, though the intent has always been to prevent sub-leasing, charter, or operating to/from/within markets considered riskier. Arguably the latter could include quite a few of SN’s longhaul destinations, but I had never read about as wide-ranging a ban as to ring-fence the aircraft out of the AOC holder’s regular operations before.

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OOSNC will be ferried to EMA today (Magritte livery).

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sdbelgium wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 07:44 OOSNC will be ferried to EMA today (Magritte livery).
What is the reason? Maintenance, storage or maybe something else?

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Yuqu12 wrote:What is the reason? Maintenance, storage or maybe something else?
I think this is a planned phase-out. Sad to see this Belgian Icon go though :cry:

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According to the website of Brussels Airlines, the Magritte livery would stay until 2022. We'll have to wait and see whether it returns or not I guess.

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Yuqu12 wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 15:58 According to the website of Brussels Airlines, the Magritte livery would stay until 2022. We'll have to wait and see whether it returns or not I guess.
Furthermore, SN is getting rid of the A319s and wants to replace them by A320s, hence it would be strange to abandon one of its iconic A320s.
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