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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by crew1990 » 31 Jul 2017, 15:12

Bordeaux become a year round destination, Rome will have more frequencies, Edimburgh will be upgraded to a319, Billund toi a SSj100. For the new destination, Therese will be normally all the destination of TCAB. Not that bad isn't it

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by b.lufthansa » 31 Jul 2017, 15:12

tolipanebas wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 10:53

-) regional wetleases consolidated to SSJ as from next summer, so no more Q400 or E-jet to a total of 6
(i.e. 1 regional wetlease less than today)
Hopefully the social dumping at Cityjet will be fixed by then: https://www.aviation24.be/forums/viewtopic ... 73#p353973

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by JarnoG » 31 Jul 2017, 15:19

I wonder why the fleet will be renewed, knowing that Lufthansa is taking over Brussels Airlines..

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by nordikcam » 31 Jul 2017, 17:00

crew1990 wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 14:28
Unfortunately, while BOM will receive an extra flight this winter, another one will be downgraded because of seasonality.

Tolipanebas, it s a bit difficult with all the info we had on this topic to visualise how the fleet will look like.

If i summurise correctly, it should be

16 a319
16 a320
10 a330 (x 200 and y 300)
6 ssj100

It makes a total of only 48 aircraft while we have 53 at the moment so i guess i m wrong.

And what about the a321?

Thanks for your info, always nice to read you.
Hi...why 16 A319 ? There are 22 right now no ? Some must leave ? Thx !

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by crew1990 » 31 Jul 2017, 17:45

From what i understood in this topic 3 A319 are leaving, 4 are replaced with a320 and a new a319 is coming to replace one of the q400 leaving. So 22-3-4+1=16

For the A320 it was written that 4 a319 would be replaced with a320, plus the 2 a320 from TCW. So 10+4+2=16

But i guess there is a mistake somewhere

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by travellover » 31 Jul 2017, 17:47

tolipanebas wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 10:53
Fleet changes agreed to:
-) the production of 1 plane upgraded to A319
-) the production of 4 A319 upgrraded to A320
nordikcam wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 17:00
Hi...why 16 A319 ? There are 22 right now no ? Some must leave ? Thx !
Are there 3 A319 leaving the fleet ?
Cheers

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by crew1990 » 31 Jul 2017, 17:58

DeltaWiskey wrote:
19 Apr 2017, 22:15
It also appears that SSD will go back to the lessor in december 2017 and SSA/B/N in 2018.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by convair » 31 Jul 2017, 18:10

tolipanebas wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 10:53
Fleet changes agreed to:
-) the production of 1 plane upgraded to A319
-) the production of 4 A319 upgrraded to A320
This does not necessarily means that 3 A319 will be leaving the fleet:
1) TC will be transferring more flights than planes;
2) you need to allow for the maintenance checks, mostly performed during the winter season I think.

Current situation:
22 A319 and 10 A320. Someone indicated here that 1 A319 (was it SSD?) is going to be replaced ( I assume by a A320) but there might be more down the road.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by RoMax » 31 Jul 2017, 18:17

crew1990 wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 17:58
DeltaWiskey wrote:
19 Apr 2017, 22:15
It also appears that SSD will go back to the lessor in december 2017 and SSA/B/N in 2018.
SSD will be the one replacing part of the wet lease production, it's supposed to stay/go through redelivery to SN.
I thought there are 3 effectively leaving, so that makes 19 A319 and 16 A320.
+10 A330
+6 SSJ's
So that's 51 in total, but with a much higher average seat count vs this year and assuming there is no further addition.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by DeltaWiskey » 31 Jul 2017, 18:45

The return of SSD to the lessor is postponed, it is going to stay a bit longer. Normally no A319 will leave in the WI17. It is then just one in SU18 and then two in WI18.
Lots of A320 will join in the next 12 months. I think 3 before the end of this year (2 ex-Thomas Cook and 1 ex-AZ), and then another 3 or 4 before July 2018.

The single aisle Airbus fleet in July 2018 will probably look like this: 21 A319, 18 or 19 A320. No news on A321 unfortunately.

This is roughly what is currently in the pipeline, but as these things change very often, don't quote me on this in 4 months time :P

In case anyone is interested, the MSN's for the 7 A330's joining as from next year are 915, 895, 959, 978, 983, 1132, 679 (normally in that order).

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by pitrixplanespotting » 31 Jul 2017, 21:12

7 A330 leaving the fleet?
If so, it already is an (small) upgrade, all the new ones are A333 :)

In general: nice fleet renewal ;)

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by luchtzak » 31 Jul 2017, 21:21

pitrixplanespotting wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 21:12
7 A330 leaving the fleet?
If so, it already is an (small) upgrade, all the new ones are A333 :)

In general: nice fleet renewal ;)
In case you missed that news: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lufthan ... aul-fleet/

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by DannyVDB » 01 Aug 2017, 08:02

[Sorry if this is the wrong topic]

In the inflight magazine of August, B-Inspired, they have a double page where they call people to provide ideas for the fifth Belgian Icon livery.

http://edition.pagesuite.com/html5/read ... bb620be39

Cheers,
Danny

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Bralo20 » 01 Aug 2017, 08:20

DeltaWiskey wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 18:45
In case anyone is interested, the MSN's for the 7 A330's joining as from next year are 915, 895, 959, 978, 983, 1132, 679 (normally in that order).

That's and old one compared to the others, it will be at least 14 years old when it arrives since it's the last one to join while the youngest will only be half it's age.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Treeper » 01 Aug 2017, 08:24

DeltaWiskey wrote:
31 Jul 2017, 18:45

In case anyone is interested, the MSN's for the 7 A330's joining as from next year are 915, 895, 959, 978, 983, 1132, 679 (normally in that order).
So where are they coming from?


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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by OO-ITR » 01 Aug 2017, 16:10

DannyVDB wrote:
01 Aug 2017, 08:02
[Sorry if this is the wrong topic]

In the inflight magazine of August, B-Inspired, they have a double page where they call people to provide ideas for the fifth Belgian Icon livery.

http://edition.pagesuite.com/html5/read ... bb620be39

Cheers,
Danny
Why not a livery with famous Belgian people. I guess there are enough famous Belgians to fill one A320 :)

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by brabel » 01 Aug 2017, 16:28

OO-ITR wrote:
01 Aug 2017, 16:10
DannyVDB wrote:
01 Aug 2017, 08:02
[Sorry if this is the wrong topic]

In the inflight magazine of August, B-Inspired, they have a double page where they call people to provide ideas for the fifth Belgian Icon livery.

http://edition.pagesuite.com/html5/read ... bb620be39

Cheers,
Danny
Why not a livery with famous Belgian people. I guess there are enough famous Belgians to fill one A320 :)
Who would you go for?

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by cathay belgium » 01 Aug 2017, 17:16

Hi,

Adolph Sax for sure !
Or Toots ,Merckx,Smurfs,..

But we have sport , music , comics already !

So science...
I suggest ,.. Georges Lemaitre
We take you to the home of the origin of everything ! Lol

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by convair » 01 Aug 2017, 17:35

DannyVDB wrote:
01 Aug 2017, 08:02
[Sorry if this is the wrong topic]

In the inflight magazine of August, B-Inspired, they have a double page where they call people to provide ideas for the fifth Belgian Icon livery.

http://edition.pagesuite.com/html5/read ... bb620be39

Cheers,
Danny
A few possibilities for sites: the Atomium, Brussels Grand' Place, Manneken Pis, a view of Bruges' canals, Antwerp's Brabo, Namur's Citadel to stick to some of the best known.
Famous people portraits might be a bit difficult to recognize, even for Belgians ;) : Albert 1, Ernest Solvay, Jacques De Duve, Maurice Maeterlinck, Jacques Brel, Leo Baekeland,..........

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