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Boeing767copilot wrote: 02 Jul 2017, 15:29 Flight SN2304 from Stockholm to Brussels
https://fr24.com/BEL2304/df035bd

Am I wrong? The first SSJ flight on the Bromma-route?
Indeed. Well done, Boeing767copilot! The" same aircraft type is now scheduled for the following days on that flight.
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crew1990 wrote: 11 Jun 2017, 21:24 The question now is how those 2 Q400 will be replaced, A319? ERJ145? SSJ100?
It appears that the 2 Flybe Q400's will be replaced by a (4th) SSJ100 and an A319.

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I just saw that the Birmingham night stop, currently operated by cityjet will now be operated by A319 in September. I guess then that the SSJ100 will operate the Nantes, Billund, Stockholm and Edimburgh flights isn't it?

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crew1990 wrote: 10 Jul 2017, 19:58 I just saw that the Birmingham night stop, currently operated by cityjet will now be operated by A319 in September. I guess then that the SSJ100 will operate the Nantes, Billund, Stockholm and Edimburgh flights isn't it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_ ... stinations

here's a complete list of which flights are done by who ;)
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Could bee the A321LR an option for Brussels Airlines?
Maybe to start a second evening flight to Newark.
Or maybe two flights to Dakar instead of one?!?!
And maybe with enough range direct flights to Luanda...but I don't think it's possible.
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lumumba wrote: 11 Jul 2017, 21:13 Could bee the A321LR an option for Brussels Airlines?
Maybe to start a second evening flight to Newark.
Or maybe two flights to Dakar instead of one?!?!
And maybe with enough range direct flights to Luanda...but I don't think it's possible.
EWR would be UA's call ... as it's their homebase... UA could still do it with the 757 as their daily EWR flight works pretty well with 95% load factor (although not every day)
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CTBke wrote: 11 Jul 2017, 22:14
lumumba wrote: 11 Jul 2017, 21:13 Could bee the A321LR an option for Brussels Airlines?
Maybe to start a second evening flight to Newark.
Or maybe two flights to Dakar instead of one?!?!
And maybe with enough range direct flights to Luanda...but I don't think it's possible.
EWR would be UA's call ... as it's their homebase... UA could still do it with the 757 as their daily EWR flight works pretty well with 95% load factor (although not every day)
I understand but nothing is moving about the second flight of UA, but this was only one option for the use of the Airbus A319LR.
It could give some flexibility to some flights with a lot of competition like Dakar.
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The ceo told some months ago that the A321LR is (was) currently being reviewed. Mother company Lufthansa has also expressed interest in the aircraft type last year.

Imo, it is a very interesting aircraft, but you'll need a sizeable subfleet to make return on investment /added complexity. I don't see the point of having just 2 or 3 A321LR in the fleet.

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If they were fitted with proper business class, they could be an interesting substitute (economics to be checked of course) for A320s on medium haul destinations such as TLV, DMD, the Canaries, Funchal, in addition to US/Canada East coast and West Africa, and maybe to open a couple of destinations in the Gulf, competition of the ME3 permitting.
Then, a fleet of 8 to 12 aircraft could possibly be reached gradually.

Would belly cargo space be a limiting factor on the A321LR?

Would the 757 be a cheaper option? Could it do the trick?

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convair wrote: 12 Jul 2017, 00:32 If they were fitted with proper business class, they could be an interesting substitute (economics to be checked of course) for A320s on medium haul destinations such as TLV, DMD, the Canaries, Funchal, in addition to US/Canada East coast and West Africa, and maybe to open a couple of destinations in the Gulf, competition of the ME3 permitting.
Then, a fleet of 8 to 12 aircraft could possibly be reached gradually.

Would belly cargo space be a limiting factor on the A321LR?

Would the 757 be a cheaper option? Could it do the trick?
What airport do you mean with DMD? I guess Australia is a bit too far for away.
BOS, TLV, JFK evening flight, IKA and smaller destinations in western Africa such as Banjul (to stay ahead of competition SN will have to offer more non-stop flights but the A330's are too large for some cities).

757 would absolutely make no sense (maintenance, pilot training etc.).
A321's can also be used on the busier European routes (however they would have a long haul business class config so less seats in total than the A320 for example).
The only pro-757 argument is that the SN-management seems to like old crap. :)

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Sonho1985 wrote: 12 Jul 2017, 10:12
convair wrote: 12 Jul 2017, 00:32 If they were fitted with proper business class, they could be an interesting substitute (economics to be checked of course) for A320s on medium haul destinations such as TLV, DMD, the Canaries, Funchal, in addition to US/Canada East coast and West Africa, and maybe to open a couple of destinations in the Gulf, competition of the ME3 permitting.
Then, a fleet of 8 to 12 aircraft could possibly be reached gradually.

Would belly cargo space be a limiting factor on the A321LR?

Would the 757 be a cheaper option? Could it do the trick?
What airport do you mean with DMD? I guess Australia is a bit too far for away.
BOS, TLV, JFK evening flight, IKA and smaller destinations in western Africa such as Banjul (to stay ahead of competition SN will have to offer more non-stop flights but the A330's are too large for some cities).

757 would absolutely make no sense (maintenance, pilot training etc.).
A321's can also be used on the busier European routes (however they would have a long haul business class config so less seats in total than the A320 for example).
The only pro-757 argument is that the SN-management seems to like old crap. :)
I think he meant Domodedovo in Moscow with DMD.
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there will be a 4th sukhoi superjet for brussels airlines her's a picture from it Image the picture is token the 7th of july

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sukhoi wrote: 12 Jul 2017, 15:10 there will be a 4th sukhoi superjet for brussels airlines her's a picture from it Image the picture is token the 7th of july
What will be the registration ? EI-FWG ? Do you have other pictures ?

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in the Brussels Airlines magazine they mention 5 Sukhoi in the fleet.
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sukhoi wrote: 12 Jul 2017, 15:10 there will be a 4th sukhoi superjet for brussels airlines her's a picture from it
Thanks for the information, sukhoi, and welcome to Luchtzak!

Would you happen to know the future registration? EI-FWF?
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lumumba wrote: 12 Jul 2017, 18:18 in the Brussels Airlines magazine they mention 5 Sukhoi in the fleet.
As Airfleets ! :-)

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luchtzak wrote: 12 Jul 2017, 18:15
sukhoi wrote: 12 Jul 2017, 15:10 there will be a 4th sukhoi superjet for brussels airlines her's a picture from it Image the picture is token the 7th of july
What will be the registration ? EI-FWG ? Do you have other pictures ?
i didn't have more information of picturs but I think EI-FWG will be the registration

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CTBke wrote: 10 Jul 2017, 23:27 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_ ... stinations

here's a complete list of which flights are done by who ;)
I will miss the Q400 on my BRU-BLL roundtrips :-) I wonder if the Belgian flybe crews will be transferred to Cityjet?

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Out of topic but I had a nice view on my SN flight to Luanda this Tuesday.
Over the Sahara two SN planes flying near each other.
Not so common and nice :D
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lumumba wrote: 13 Jul 2017, 00:15 Out of topic but I had a nice view on my SN flight to Luanda this Tuesday.
Over the Sahara two SN planes flying near each other.
Not so common and nice :D

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