Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

[RoMax]

I can understand all the the arguments about older planes but today you can not have a fleet without Wi-Fi ,roaming etc...
So they will have to invested in all this planes to be at the same level as the others airlines.

You don't need a brand new aircraft to offer services like wifi, that can perfectly be fitted to an older aircraft. Does it cost a bit more than having a new aircraft which has been fitted with such a system from the factory, possibly, I don't know, probably depends on what system the airline chooses anyway (some are easy fits, others require a bit more physical work, whether if it's a retrofit or not), but it's definitely not going to be a breaking point for choosing between new or second-hand, that'll be a marginal cost compared to the overall investment.

[sn26567]

Tail of the second SSJ100 in SN colours (to be delivered soon...)

[TLspotting]

Absolutely correct !

This new aircraft is EI-FWA,arrived at Venice 7 days ago,on 5th April !

Greetings,
Thibault

[Yuqu12]

Absolutely correct !

This new aircraft is EI-FWA,arrived at Venice 7 days ago,on 5th April !

Greetings,
Thibault

I don't think it is FWA. Normally, only brand new planes would come to SN, so probably it will be EI-FWE.

[TLspotting]

Impossible for EI-FWE,he's not in the Cityjet fleet,follows planespotters.net.
So the only possibility is EI-FWA,because it landed on 7th April and now taken off not yet.

[Yuqu12]

There is 1 SSJ100 on order fro Cityjet, so it is possible. I read somewhere on FB that the 3 SN-SSJ's will be FWD, FWE, FWG as they'll get factory new SSJ100's. The FWB and FWC would go back to CItyjet which would operate then FWA, FWB and FWC.

[skumfiduse]

There is 1 SSJ100 on order fro Cityjet, so it is possible. I read somewhere on FB that the 3 SN-SSJ's will be FWD, FWE, FWG as they'll get factory new SSJ100's. The FWB and FWC would go back to CItyjet which would operate then FWA, FWB and FWC.

I read that too. Can't remember where though.

[TLspotting]

It's interesting,
but my idea is possible because EI-FWD was repainted at Venice,and maybe EI-FWA too...
So, EI-FWA for me but your idea/possibility is also good

[skumfiduse]

Impossible for EI-FWE,he's not in the Cityjet fleet,follows planespotters.net.
So the only possibility is EI-FWA,because it landed on 7th April and now taken off not yet.

Be cautious by referring to planespotters.net as an official source. It gives an indication, so does airfleets.net

Let's just wait and see when the newbie reveals itself in full glory

[TLspotting]

Yup,but that's weird by the way

[Bralo20]

EI-FWE is painted in SN's colors, SSJ tweeted this pic 2 weeks ago:

[RoMax]

It's interesting,
but my idea is possible because EI-FWD was repainted at Venice,and maybe EI-FWA too...
So, EI-FWA for me but your idea/possibility is also good

EI-FWD was not 're'painted in Venice, it was a brand new delivery to CityJet directly in SN livery and delivered directly to BRU instead of DUB. Next one is EI-FWE now (also a factory new aircraft), followed by FWF in May normally.

EI-FWA is from what I know in Venice for an interior (galley) modification. SuperJet International is an Italian/Venice-based company doing all the painting, cabin outfitting and other finishing and pre-delivery testing for Western customers like CityJet and InterJet.

[TLspotting]

Yes !
So EI-FWE in preparation,alright that's good !

[lumumba]

I just noticed that the in-flight entertainment system is changed to the same as Lufthansa....

[RoMax]

I just noticed that the in-flight entertainment system is changed to the same as Lufthansa....

In which way was it changed to 'the same as Lufthansa'? The interface of the long haul IFE has been updated to a newer, nicer looking version with more options and the branding has been improved and updated to the current SN branding (previously the branding in the system was hardly existing, it was pretty much the standard Zodiac Rave interface with an outdated SN shell on top like the welcome pages etc) and the content presentation has been updated, as well as a broader selection of ethnic content (such as Bollywood) and Belgian highlights.

But it's not more or less similar to LH than before. SN was the first to introduce the RAVE IFE on board in the LH Group in 2012, later others followed, often with newer versions and interfaces (until now with this update from SN).

[lumumba]

I'm not a technician but the layout is the same now than in Lufti.

[CTBke]

I'm not a technician but the layout is the same now than in Lufti.

because it's the same system used in the LH group...

[RoMax]

I'm not a technician but the layout is the same now than in Lufti.

because it's the same system used in the LH group...

Indeed, as has been the case since the introduction of the current IFE... In 2011 LH and SN made the joint decision to start introducing the RAVE IFE system. SN introduced it first when retrofitting the A330 fleet as from 2012 and in a second phase LH started trials with broader implementation following later. Austrian also followed when they introduced their new long haul interior (IFE and C-class being basically almost the same as SN).

So except for the change in interface (which indeed might resemble more closely to the versions used by LH, as those were newer than the old one of SN), there is definitely not a change towards the same system as LH. I would say quite the contrary, of course the interface is partly standard for everyone (but dependent on the version, and that's where the difference was with LH), but this update includes much more SN branding.

[Matthias]

Hi, i've seen that SWISS is retrofitting its a321's with sharklets. Will SN do the same with their a320's?

[Matthias]

OO-DWK has been ferried to NWI today. Only 5 avro's left...