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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by RoMax » 09 Apr 2017, 11:18

lumumba wrote:
09 Apr 2017, 10:24
I can understand all the the arguments about older planes but today you can not have a fleet without Wi-Fi ,roaming etc...
So they will have to invested in all this planes to be at the same level as the others airlines.
You don't need a brand new aircraft to offer services like wifi, that can perfectly be fitted to an older aircraft. Does it cost a bit more than having a new aircraft which has been fitted with such a system from the factory, possibly, I don't know, probably depends on what system the airline chooses anyway (some are easy fits, others require a bit more physical work, whether if it's a retrofit or not), but it's definitely not going to be a breaking point for choosing between new or second-hand, that'll be a marginal cost compared to the overall investment.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sn26567 » 12 Apr 2017, 19:18

Tail of the second SSJ100 in SN colours (to be delivered soon...)

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by TLspotting » 12 Apr 2017, 19:43

Absolutely correct !

This new aircraft is EI-FWA,arrived at Venice 7 days ago,on 5th April !

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Yuqu12 » 12 Apr 2017, 20:22

TLspotting wrote:
12 Apr 2017, 19:43
Absolutely correct !

This new aircraft is EI-FWA,arrived at Venice 7 days ago,on 5th April !

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I don't think it is FWA. Normally, only brand new planes would come to SN, so probably it will be EI-FWE.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by TLspotting » 12 Apr 2017, 20:39

Impossible for EI-FWE,he's not in the Cityjet fleet,follows planespotters.net.
So the only possibility is EI-FWA,because it landed on 7th April and now taken off not yet.
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Yuqu12 » 12 Apr 2017, 20:52

There is 1 SSJ100 on order fro Cityjet, so it is possible. I read somewhere on FB that the 3 SN-SSJ's will be FWD, FWE, FWG as they'll get factory new SSJ100's. The FWB and FWC would go back to CItyjet which would operate then FWA, FWB and FWC.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by skumfiduse » 12 Apr 2017, 22:08

Yuqu12 wrote:
12 Apr 2017, 20:52
There is 1 SSJ100 on order fro Cityjet, so it is possible. I read somewhere on FB that the 3 SN-SSJ's will be FWD, FWE, FWG as they'll get factory new SSJ100's. The FWB and FWC would go back to CItyjet which would operate then FWA, FWB and FWC.
I read that too. Can't remember where though.

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Post by TLspotting » 12 Apr 2017, 22:09

It's interesting,
but my idea is possible because EI-FWD was repainted at Venice,and maybe EI-FWA too...
So, EI-FWA for me but your idea/possibility is also good ;)
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by skumfiduse » 12 Apr 2017, 22:11

TLspotting wrote:
12 Apr 2017, 20:39
Impossible for EI-FWE,he's not in the Cityjet fleet,follows planespotters.net.
So the only possibility is EI-FWA,because it landed on 7th April and now taken off not yet.
Be cautious by referring to planespotters.net as an official source. It gives an indication, so does airfleets.net

Let's just wait and see when the newbie reveals itself in full glory 😊

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Post by TLspotting » 12 Apr 2017, 22:19

Yup,but that's weird by the way
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Bralo20 » 12 Apr 2017, 22:20

EI-FWE is painted in SN's colors, SSJ tweeted this pic 2 weeks ago:

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by RoMax » 12 Apr 2017, 23:28

TLspotting wrote:
12 Apr 2017, 22:09
It's interesting,
but my idea is possible because EI-FWD was repainted at Venice,and maybe EI-FWA too...
So, EI-FWA for me but your idea/possibility is also good ;)
EI-FWD was not 're'painted in Venice, it was a brand new delivery to CityJet directly in SN livery and delivered directly to BRU instead of DUB. Next one is EI-FWE now (also a factory new aircraft), followed by FWF in May normally.

EI-FWA is from what I know in Venice for an interior (galley) modification. SuperJet International is an Italian/Venice-based company doing all the painting, cabin outfitting and other finishing and pre-delivery testing for Western customers like CityJet and InterJet.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by TLspotting » 13 Apr 2017, 12:30

Yes !
So EI-FWE in preparation,alright that's good !
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by lumumba » 13 Apr 2017, 20:32

I just noticed that the in-flight entertainment system is changed to the same as Lufthansa....
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by RoMax » 13 Apr 2017, 21:02

lumumba wrote:
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I just noticed that the in-flight entertainment system is changed to the same as Lufthansa....
In which way was it changed to 'the same as Lufthansa'? The interface of the long haul IFE has been updated to a newer, nicer looking version with more options and the branding has been improved and updated to the current SN branding (previously the branding in the system was hardly existing, it was pretty much the standard Zodiac Rave interface with an outdated SN shell on top like the welcome pages etc) and the content presentation has been updated, as well as a broader selection of ethnic content (such as Bollywood) and Belgian highlights.

But it's not more or less similar to LH than before. SN was the first to introduce the RAVE IFE on board in the LH Group in 2012, later others followed, often with newer versions and interfaces (until now with this update from SN).

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by lumumba » 14 Apr 2017, 06:53

I'm not a technician but the layout is the same now than in Lufti.
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by CTBke » 14 Apr 2017, 17:26

lumumba wrote:
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I'm not a technician but the layout is the same now than in Lufti.
because it's the same system used in the LH group...
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by RoMax » 14 Apr 2017, 18:47

CTBke wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 17:26
lumumba wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 06:53
I'm not a technician but the layout is the same now than in Lufti.
because it's the same system used in the LH group...
Indeed, as has been the case since the introduction of the current IFE... In 2011 LH and SN made the joint decision to start introducing the RAVE IFE system. SN introduced it first when retrofitting the A330 fleet as from 2012 and in a second phase LH started trials with broader implementation following later. Austrian also followed when they introduced their new long haul interior (IFE and C-class being basically almost the same as SN).

So except for the change in interface (which indeed might resemble more closely to the versions used by LH, as those were newer than the old one of SN), there is definitely not a change towards the same system as LH. I would say quite the contrary, of course the interface is partly standard for everyone (but dependent on the version, and that's where the difference was with LH), but this update includes much more SN branding.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Matthias » 15 Apr 2017, 11:58

Hi, i've seen that SWISS is retrofitting its a321's with sharklets. Will SN do the same with their a320's?

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Matthias » 15 Apr 2017, 12:04

OO-DWK has been ferried to NWI today. Only 5 avro's left...

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