Korongo Airlines: THE END
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Kabila/Korongo airlines
Kabila is the winner. What about Korongo airlines now?
Last edited by sn26567 on 09 Dec 2011, 18:40, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Kabilla/Korongo airlines
Guess you said it right then ! What about ? Nothing more to say I guess...
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Re: Kabilla/Korongo airlines
? Will the new Kabila dislike George Forrest less than the old? Or what else would change? Why should anything change, actually?
Re: Kabila/Korongo airlines
You never know in Africa!
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Re: Korongo Airlines
FWIW, the BAe146 planes are starting to fly more often again in the runup to some sort of a solution, so it seems as if the end is in sight, whatever it may be.
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Re: Korongo Airlines
All paperwork is now signed and start-up is forseen in the spring of 2012. :thumbup:
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Re: Korongo Airlines
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Why does it remain unofficial?
KORONGO taking off around march would be great!
Shanti wrote:That is really good news!
MAJOR NEWS I WOULD SAY!!!HighInTheSky wrote:All paperwork is now signed and start-up is forseen in the spring of 2012. :thumbup:
Why does it remain unofficial?
KORONGO taking off around march would be great!
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Re: Korongo Airlines
Detailed timeline is being prepared now, so I assume that a official press release will be sent in due timebrusselsairlinesfan wrote:THIS ISShanti wrote:That is really good news!MAJOR NEWS I WOULD SAY!!!HighInTheSky wrote:All paperwork is now signed and start-up is forseen in the spring of 2012. :thumbup:
Why does it remain unofficial?
KORONGO taking off around march would be great!
Re: Korongo Airlines
Contractair is recruiting 737 pilots for Korongo, start date 01/04/2012.
Re: Korongo Airlines
Any chance to fly with the Korongo boeing 737-300 from Brussels before leaving to tropical Africa?
Destination is not important.
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Destination is not important.
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Re: Korongo Airlines
And it's 100% official now: Korongo to start in Spring
Korongo Airlines will offer regular services between Lubumbashi and Kinshasa as well as between Lubumbashi and Johannesburg, both on Boeing 737. Very soon after start up, Mbuji Maji and Kolwezi will be added to the network from Lubumbashi.
Korongo Airlines will offer regular services between Lubumbashi and Kinshasa as well as between Lubumbashi and Johannesburg, both on Boeing 737. Very soon after start up, Mbuji Maji and Kolwezi will be added to the network from Lubumbashi.
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Re: Korongo Airlines
VERY GOOD NEWS FOR BOTH BRUSSELS AIRLINES & CONGOLESE/AFRICAN AVIATION!!!tolipanebas wrote:And it's 100% official now: Korongo to start in Spring
Korongo Airlines will offer regular services between Lubumbashi and Kinshasa as well as between Lubumbashi and Johannesburg, both on Boeing 737. Very soon after start up, Mbuji Maji and Kolwezi will be added to the network from Lubumbashi.
How did they "suddenly" reach an agreement? I am a bit curious about it...
Re: Korongo Airlines
will they codeshare with star alliance members?
Re: Korongo Airlines
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ + €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€brusselsairlinesfan wrote:How did they "suddenly" reach an agreement? I am a bit curious about it...
Re: Korongo Airlines
Indeed very good news.
Some of the members on here will be sad as they would prefer seeing this project fail...
Some of the members on here will be sad as they would prefer seeing this project fail...
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Re: Korongo Airlines
Finally...
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Re: Korongo Airlines
If Korongo had failed, some had hoped that SN could have reached an agreement with RwandAir to establish a base in Rwanda...rwandan-flyer wrote:Finally...
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Re: Korongo Airlines
Good news indeed.
However...
-B737, RJ85 phase-out maintenance costs (my estimate 10 million)
-A319/A320/A330 phase-in costs (my estimate 5 million)
-A330 refurbishment 25 million
-NYC start-up loss and investments (my estimate minimum 5 million)
-Korongo re-investment and start-up loss (my estimate minimum 10 million)
-Euro is -10%, potentially going lower, fuel is unchanged, 30 million deeper loss
-ETS, 15 million
-Industrial actions and miscellaneous issues, 5 million
Other potential losses, my estimates:
-Winter operations, up to 5 million (part of which has been spent in the past weeks)
-Africa yields under pressure due to re-start of Afriqiyah, TK joining the market. 5 to 10 million, but could be much much more.
-Europe under pressure, LCC competition, BUD is a lost cause, partner Spanair tits-up, Blue 1 is gone so no more feeding from HEL, Air Berlin looming.
Yields under pressure due to overcapacity, too large aircraft in a deepening recession
(An RJ85 with 50 pax is cheaper to run than a A319 with 50 pax.) Up to 20 million.
Almost all of this is versus last year's loss.
Do the math...
I repeat my prediction, it's going to be tough for SN to survive the next winter.
However...
-B737, RJ85 phase-out maintenance costs (my estimate 10 million)
-A319/A320/A330 phase-in costs (my estimate 5 million)
-A330 refurbishment 25 million
-NYC start-up loss and investments (my estimate minimum 5 million)
-Korongo re-investment and start-up loss (my estimate minimum 10 million)
-Euro is -10%, potentially going lower, fuel is unchanged, 30 million deeper loss
-ETS, 15 million
-Industrial actions and miscellaneous issues, 5 million
Other potential losses, my estimates:
-Winter operations, up to 5 million (part of which has been spent in the past weeks)
-Africa yields under pressure due to re-start of Afriqiyah, TK joining the market. 5 to 10 million, but could be much much more.
-Europe under pressure, LCC competition, BUD is a lost cause, partner Spanair tits-up, Blue 1 is gone so no more feeding from HEL, Air Berlin looming.
Yields under pressure due to overcapacity, too large aircraft in a deepening recession
(An RJ85 with 50 pax is cheaper to run than a A319 with 50 pax.) Up to 20 million.
Almost all of this is versus last year's loss.
Do the math...
I repeat my prediction, it's going to be tough for SN to survive the next winter.